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06-17-2014 , 04:37 PM
Okay. I am kind of a n00b at PLO. Would like some insights on this hand.

Is pre ok to call? Generally, I think people fold way too much in these games.. Guess people gonna say it is a easy fold pre

Is flop a fold, with it being multiway? I have a bad straightdraw, plus toppair and 2 backdoor flushdraws. AND position!

Since I called flop I cannot really fold turn, right? Even though it really seems like he flopped the straight.

River he checks pretty fast. I don't have a good flush, but Imo good enough to v-bet. Sizeing okish?

If you don't like my play I at least want some insights on the riverplay




[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #28085451

Hero (BTN): $92.76 (371 bb)
SB: $54.82 (219.3 bb)
BB: $25 (100 bb)
UTG: $18.05 (72.2 bb)
MP: $17.72 (70.9 bb)
CO: $52.68 (210.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J 8 K 5
UTG raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, SB folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3.85) 9 K T (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP bets $1.84, CO folds, Hero calls $1.84, 2 folds

Turn: ($7.53) 7 (2 players)
MP bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

River: ($14.53) T (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $6,
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06-17-2014 , 05:10 PM
pre is usually a fold, your hand plays bad in multiway pots, although being otb. it can be played, but i would advice a beginner to lay it down.

flop is a fold, as you said, itīs a multiway hand, you got still 2 players behind you, none of your outs is to the nuts, you basically got no sdv vs his leading range vs 4 players. being deeper, you would have the benefit of holding a K blocker which can be useful on later streets to use as top full house blocker, but villain being only 70bb deep, leading into the world on a non drawy board, this is a clear fold.

as played, turn is interesting. despite the presence of new drawing potential vs his likely QJ, he still only made a half potsize bet like otf. imo itīs likely he either has covered this draw and isnīt fearing more or less any river, or he has smth like top set w/ fd trying to get to the river. either way, we caught our absolute dream card and are still in a very bad spot, which is why i absolutely hate the flop peel. as played, well, canīt fault you for calling turn once you got there, but folding would be no mistake either imo. such a bad RIO hand...

as played, c/behind otr or pot it to rep top full house and get rid of higher flushes. once he checked, we are good a high percentage of the time since he should figuere we would be all too happy to go to showdown if we had QJ ourselfes, but he should not call for basically any amount with a naked QJ, and you are likely valueowning yourself with that sizing vs his higher bd flushes or even slowplayed fh(which he shouldnt have too many though).

but donīt like you played that hand at all tbh, fold pre, fold flop, fold turn, jam or c/behind river. not wanting to sound harsh, but you played it like a typical calling station.
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06-17-2014 , 05:48 PM
Haha np! I do Agree with you! Specially fold flop!

Specially when I look at the hand now! I guess I had been getting away with floats too much people being nitty Imo

Fwiw, he did in fact called the river with just qj! So at least got some value there! Altough it doesn't justify actions on further streets!

Last edited by Swedishmonkey; 06-17-2014 at 05:57 PM.
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06-18-2014 , 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Swedishmonkey
Haha np! I do Agree with you! Specially fold flop!

Specially when I look at the hand now! I guess I had been getting away with floats too much people being nitty Imo

Fwiw, he did in fact called the river with just qj! So at least got some value there! Altough it doesn't justify actions on further streets!
you should not expect to get called from a decent villain with solely QJ here though; as for getting away with floats too much, i guess as a beginner you still have troubles to recognize the differences between absolute and relative hand strenght in plo. HU in position this is a clear float, but you gotta realize how much stronger his range is leading into 4 people on a flop like that. iīd guess KK and QJ, thatīs about it.
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06-18-2014 , 12:12 PM
Haha I guess!

Ty for your replies
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