SB is 33/17/5 over 550 hands, CO is 25/6/2 over 280 hands, no real reads on either, just that SB will sometimes overplay 2 pr type hands, and stack off with non nut draws, which I guess is kind of helpful here.

Did I overplay my hand raising here? Is this one of the easiest flats ever?

Also in regards to preflop, is this hand a raise, esp. on the button?

PokerStars - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG: $21.19
CO: $39.48
Hero (BTN): $38.63
SB: $33.37
BB: $25.00

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has J Q 5 K

fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1.00, 4 players) 9 3 T
SB checks, BB checks, CO bets $0.96, Hero raises to $3.40,

Looks nothing like nut wrap to me.

what does it look like to you then if not a nut wrap?

Cutoff cbet stats would be helpfull, but it seems with his cbet sizing that he probably isnt playing naked overpairs this way, a lot of his range is AA/KK + fd. Therefore I prefer a call, especially since you dont mind it going multiway with sb overcalling some dominated draws

flatting as doubt we can get it in ahead on the flop, and having to fold this to V 3b on flop would suck

Raise pre. Overlimping OTB 130 BB's effective is bad.

OTF raise is > call this deep. As played gii, you're gonna gii HU, a lot and you're flipping. You'll gii 3 ways less often, somewhere between good and marginally bad the majority of the time.

Def a good PPT hands as ranges are fairly defined.

I reconsidered, still not a nut wrap. Looks good, tho.

lol what?

over limping on the button is fine, especially 130 BB deep

raising OTF with CO potting 150bb deep and two players to act behind you looks ******ed.

as played, my guess is that OP got it in vs one set and one flush draw that had him beat, so the outcome most definitely sucks, especially with so little invested. this is just burning money galore

random nut flush draw with no overpair and danglers for villain1 and top set for villain 2 and we´re pretty much dead ...

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

493,506 trials (Exhaustive)

board: T93

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AdQh2d4h	29.07%	143,311	288
TsTc**	49.27%	242,087	2,100
JsKsQd5d	21.66%	106,008	1,812

i call flop trying to hit some of my nut outs. playing it this way with so much room for all sorts of stuff is basically the point of limping pre and keeping the pot small.

i can see how OP´s play has merit in a reraised pot with little money behind, but it´s just burning money when you have so much left to play for.

I don't have an Overlimp range in this spot, and I don't think most good regs would. I guess you're gap between VPIP and PFR is bigger than mine. The biggest winners are SS are the guys with the smallest % gap tho, always been that way and not a coincidence.

CO bet 4 BB's when checked to, his range isn't THAT strong at this point. He certainly has a ton of draws that we're doing really well against and being IP we can just maximize implied odds and min reverse.

The SB and BB are folding 90% of the time.

FWIW the sim is the worst possible and least likely scenario(3way AI) and against worst(ish) possible hands.

Depends on the definition of a 'wrap'. What we have here is a 13 card nut straight draw, and some people would classfied anything better than an open-ender as wraps, as in an 'inside wrap' for a 9 card straight draw. Others only classified 'wraps' as at least a 16/17 card straight draw.

Take your pick as to which is the better definition.

Listen to this guy, he knows his cht. I could elaborate but it would be useless.

This is a 13 card nut wrap.
The best one is the 16 cards nut wrap.
17 and 20 non nut wraps are for pussies and meatballs eater as 6 of their outs may not be our outs at all.
I would raise this pre in position. I would call the 3b on the flop and decide on the turn
thx for trolling btw

Nice. Do you really expect to get it in against AAJJds?

But surely, you might be right.

Pre-flop is a raise every time... unlike IBUF I do have an overlimp range here (stuff like suited aces with terrible side cards eg. A972 and 99-KK with bad side cards) but our hand is easily strong enough to raise and you can't really go wrong with raising nearly any hand you're going to play.

Agree with most of what IBUF has said - flop is a clear raise (tho I might make it a little less than pot), sucks when we get 3bet though. Pretty sure GII this deep in a limped pot is really bad. I think it's close between flatting and just folding. Lean towards flatting just b/c of your reads on SB.. and at least we can get away on board pairing turns.

Misread the hand history, thought CO raised. Pre is obviously an iso against weak opponent (and I do have a limping range in this spot and disagree that 'the best regs have the smallest gap between vpip and pfr'. check oddsen's stats)
As played raise flop, flat the 3bet.

Pretty much +1 to everything Ivanovic said

Oh, and if Gandalf says its a wrap who am I to argue with him?

Ty for the response everyone.

This hand is an example of what can happen if you devote too much focus on some **** talking fish at another table and just autopilot the others.

Well, you didn't exactly quote my post, and obv ther's exceptions to the rule.

2 groups of PLO 200 and under regs. First group has PFR: VPIP ratio of 1:2 second has a ratio of 4:5. Id bet a lot on which will have the higher cumulative winrate.

Not going to bet against, thats for sure