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PLO25 - JJK6ds oop flop set+fd vs 60/39/16 PLO25 - JJK6ds oop flop set+fd vs 60/39/16

03-24-2015 , 04:41 PM
PokerStars - $0.25 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 110.56 BB (VPIP: 16.49, PFR: 11.34, 3Bet Preflop: 2.33, Hands: 101)
Hero (SB): 127.8 BB
BB: 105.56 BB (VPIP: 52.63, PFR: 35.53, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, Hands: 77)
UTG: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 22.78, PFR: 18.99, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 79)
MP: 233.4 BB (VPIP: 59.96, PFR: 39.01, 3Bet Preflop: 15.94, Hands: 501)
CO: 65.4 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J 6 K J

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.6 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9 BB, 3 players) A J 2
Hero bets 6.4 BB, fold, MP calls 6.4 BB

Turn: (21.8 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 15.2 BB, MP raises to 66.48 BB, Hero raises to 118.4 BB and is all-in, MP calls 51.92 BB

River: (258.6 BB, 2 players) Q


stats above
any reason to play different? Should I check raise flop?
is the 4 a good or a bad card? Since he is 60/39 it is not impossible for him to have A35x, should I be scared of AA?
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03-24-2015 , 05:27 PM
I don't like donking.

Given his aggressive stats, he's almost certainly going to cbet this flop as PFR. A lot of hands are in his range including 35x (not just A35x, but also like 2345ds lol), AA also possible of course. You got this flop so crushed, you could even debate taking a check/call line to try and induce more bets OTT then just check/ship most turn cards or something forcing him to gii with weaker flush draws. But check/raise flop is standard, it's just that in this case, if you check/raise it is possible you fold out some hands you're doing amazing against whilst gii when in bad shape vs AAxx. So for this reason I actually like a check/call F then check/raise turn once he's comitted, although this would be less standard.

I mean I'm not folding this turn though... He could have like a double flush draw, or 2p+ draw or some random hand... And you got equity vs everything and won't know what to do on a bad or blank river so given the way it was played I like shipping.

Last edited by Xptboy; 03-24-2015 at 05:34 PM.
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03-25-2015 , 01:08 PM
bump
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03-25-2015 , 01:35 PM
I think I just C/R flop. You probably aren't getting it in great very often, but there's a ton of hands villain will be bet/calling flop with (random flush draws, wraps, ace, etc.). I don't hate a donk or a c/c though. For balancing purposes you can't just make the obvious standard play all the time.

As played I agree that you're just barely committed, so you can't fold turn.
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03-25-2015 , 01:50 PM
MP raising turn there is not going to be 22 that much, so there are some AA and AJ. It seems hard to find a fold vs this guy but he can also have a wheel alot - and probably most of the time - which you have good equity against to call. The added bbs is probably a ****it 'shove' spot. Do we really remember all those times when we had them crushed? Feels bad don't it. As we have a K it kind of makes me want to CR or CC turn. Its only QT **** that I see as a worry with a gut shot outside of what beats us... There is value in betting of course vs this guy aswell, but he is probably more vulnerable to a CR or CC and might fold his Q hi flush draws if you bet this amount.
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03-26-2015 , 12:16 PM
what am i missing? we have middle set nut flush draw and backdoor to nut straight right? vs 59/39/16 LAG? who flatted donk on a wet board?

this is the best flop/runout ever lol

not getting all of your chips in the middle here fast enough is the only crime imo
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03-26-2015 , 12:29 PM
would be interested what your overall gameplan vs these types of villain is, esp with your marginal hands...
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03-27-2015 , 02:43 AM
DO you really think he just flats your donk lead with top set OTF?

I think you should be checking and calling here since you basically have the board crushed and it gives him more chances to barrel off. The times he coolers you on the flop, you were gonna go broke anyways.
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