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05-20-2017 , 09:00 AM
Brief history in myself: Small stakes live PLO/PLO O8/O8 for 8 yrs and 14 yrs NLH. Since I only play live and only 3-5 times a year I'm basically a breakeven player in NLH. As for PLO I'm a small loser simply because I don't play alot and the live games tend to play have shallow stacks or there's a maniac who on his fifth rebuy continues to try to commit 100BB by the flop/turn. So this year with the WSOP around the corner I've decided to tune up my PLO online. Basically play every evening. I've read all of Hwangs books on Omaha more than once.

Let's get to the hands.

.10/.25 PLO 6 max

Hand 1

Villain (120BB) LAG, multi-tabling
Hero (50BB)

Pre: Villain raise pot UTG, Hero calls AdQd88 on btn.
Flop (heads up) : 2 Ah Qh, Villain bets 1/2 pot, Hero calls
Turn : 10x, Villain bts 1/2 pot, Hero calls
River : 2x, Villain bets pot. Hero?

Hand 2

Villain 1 BB (250BB). Aggressive and running like god. Won two big pots while being dominated both times.
Villain 2 BTN (125BB) blind steals from btn every time, and will insta call 3 bet if blinds play back.
Hero SB (25BB)

Pre: One limper, V2 (btn) raises pot. Hero (SB) calls AA910ds, V1 calls. Limper folds.

Flop: 22K rainbow. Checks around.

Turn: 7. Hero checks, V1 bets 1/3, V2 folds, Hero?


Final hand of the night was typical. Same scenario as Hand 2 but I 3-bet preflop with AAK5ss and got it all in on flop vs same two players. Board: 5 J 10 5 7. BTN scooped with 9987. Oh well.

Thanks all.
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05-20-2017 , 09:10 AM
1st hand call. 2nd hand you need to 3b pre. As played, call turn, check-call river.
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05-20-2017 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by joewatch54
1st hand call. 2nd hand you need to 3b pre. As played, call turn, check-call river.
Thanks for the feedback. I have a major leak of never 3-betting AAxx when deep. Perhaps it's because I always seem to pick them up in the blinds, , I almost never get a favorable flop, and I feel like I'm turning my hand face up OOP.

Hell years ago in a 2/5 game I (SPR 5) check folded AAKKds from BB on a coordinated flop of Q108 (I had no flush draw). Maniac on my left 4-bet from straddle and we took the flop 4-ways.

Another leak is that I believe most online players who multi-table tend to rarely bluff.
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05-20-2017 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ72
.10/.25 PLO 6 max

Hand 1

Villain (120BB) LAG, multi-tabling
Hero (50BB)
Lol stack size.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CJ72


Pre: Villain raise pot UTG, Hero calls AdQd88 on btn.
This hand doesn't play great with 100bb, plays worse with 50 esp..
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Originally Posted by CJ72

Flop (heads up) : 2 Ah Qh, Villain bets 1/2 pot, Hero calls
Raise flop.
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Originally Posted by CJ72


Turn : 10x, Villain bts 1/2 pot, Hero calls
River : 2x, Villain bets pot. Hero?
Much more likely to have hearts, or even air, than random A2/Q2.
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Originally Posted by CJ72

Hand 2

Villain 1 BB (250BB). Aggressive and running like god. Won two big pots while being dominated both times.
Villain 2 BTN (125BB) blind steals from btn every time, and will insta call 3 bet if blinds play back.
Hero SB (25BB)
lol.
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Originally Posted by CJ72

Pre: One limper, V2 (btn) raises pot. Hero (SB) calls AA910ds, V1 calls. Limper folds.
lol /thread.
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Originally Posted by CJ72

Flop: 22K rainbow. Checks around.

Turn: 7. Hero checks, V1 bets 1/3, V2 folds, Hero?
Seriously? Do you think villain has 77 or a random 2 here all the time?
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Originally Posted by CJ72


Final hand of the night was typical. Same scenario as Hand 2 but I 3-bet preflop with AAK5ss and got it all in on flop vs same two players. Board: 5 J 10 5 7. BTN scooped with 9987. Oh well.

Thanks all.
Welcome to PLO.
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05-20-2017 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by illiterat
Lol stack size.

This hand doesn't play great with 100bb, plays worse with 50 esp..

Raise flop.

Much more likely to have hearts, or even air, than random A2/Q2.

lol.

lol /thread.

Seriously? Do you think villain has 77 or a random 2 here all the time?


Welcome to PLO.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm new to 6-max.

Hand 1: Agree. I was worried about 10,10,xx or some KJxx. Probably should've folded pf.

Hand 2: Agree. We both waited for button to CB, but I guess he had nothing.

Last edited by CJ72; 05-20-2017 at 04:08 PM.
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05-23-2017 , 09:42 PM
New hand. Q: Should I have 4-bet or 5-bet shoved all in pre?

PLO25 6-Max

Hero (75BB) KKQsJs
Villain (90BB)

Preflop: Villain open raises pot UTG+1, Hero calls from cutoff as does everyone else but the BB (LAG) 4-bets. Villain calls, Hero and everyone else calls.

Flop: 9s,8c,2s

Blinds check to villain who goes all in and I call off getting 4:1 as a 55:45 favorite vs his 8954 rainbow.
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05-23-2017 , 09:57 PM
I think you mean BB 3bet pre. I don't like 4b because I think you are unlikely to get it HU and definitely dog vs the field.
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05-23-2017 , 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by joewatch54
I think you mean BB 3bet pre. I don't like 4b because I think you are unlikely to get it HU and definitely dog vs the field.
Ya BB 3-bet. My error.
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05-24-2017 , 12:07 AM
Not sure what you mean by "everyone else", is it a 9 handed game and you mean literally everyone?

With position and relative position calling is fine although I'd guess raising is better (maybe only slightly). At 75bb I probably just go with it and hope, but then I'd only have called instead of 3bet myself if I thought BB would 3bet.
FWIW I think given that villain opened UTG+1 and called a 3bet I doubt he folds to your 4bet, so you get the same race from the flop, although you got it in better.
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05-24-2017 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by illiterat
Not sure what you mean by "everyone else", is it a 9 handed game and you mean literally everyone?

With position and relative position calling is fine although I'd guess raising is better (maybe only slightly). At 75bb I probably just go with it and hope, but then I'd only have called instead of 3bet myself if I thought BB would 3bet.
FWIW I think given that villain opened UTG+1 and called a 3bet I doubt he folds to your 4bet, so you get the same race from the flop, although you got it in better.
You may have missed it in the description. It's 6-max and we took the flop 5-ways.

Thanks for the input. I agree, if Villain thinks he has a hand to snap off AAxx he's going to call anything.

I probably should've folded to the 3-bet since everyone else who had initially called probably had my outs.
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05-24-2017 , 11:01 AM
Q: float or not to float?

PLO25 6-max

Hero (80BB) As5sQJ
Villain (200+BB)

Pre:
Folds around to Hero in CO who open raises.
Folds to Villain in BB who 3-bets.
Hero calls

Flop: QsKx3x
Villain bets half-pot
Hero calls

Turn: Js
Villain bets pot
Hero shoves getting a little worse than 2:1

Villain wins with: AKKx for top set.


Should I have floated the flop when Villain bets half pot?
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