i had KQJ9ss

i raised 6$ UTG
button called
SB called
Flop:[JT7](Pot 20$) {i have nothing of those suits)
SB checks
i bet 10$
Button pots
SB coldcalls
Hero calls (???)
Turn:[JT7][A](pot 170$)
SB bets 14$
Hero pots and is almost allin.

is that flop call bad?
is the c-bet bad?

turn i think potting here is standard as we dont want to give a free card.

edit: villian berating me as a fish was playing HSPLO upto 5k.

worst case scenario we have 9 clean outs but are still vulnearble if we make our hand.
if the Jack pairs it will propably slow down the action and we might see the river for free.
if hearts appear we are obviously folding
if we make the second nut straight we propably are stacking off.
if the turn bricks i dont know if we got the odds to continue if button pots and SB flats

good hand to have in our check calling range on this flop which hits so many hands, and getting raised is gonna usually mean we have to fold a fair bit of equity

so do you fold to the button raise, given there is a coldcaller?

i couldnt with 15 straightouts (non hearts). 6 of them will be the secnd straight though.

that leaves 9 nut outs and 6 questionable outs. and if the jack pairs we are likely to see the river for free.

would play the same as you as played, but wouldent cbet this hand myself

HSplayer tank shipped 89K6, SB folded

a pretty arrogant call pre if you ask me.

edit: misscalculated outs we have only 6 outs to the nuts. that makes my call indeed very questionable

so 6 nut outs and ony 4 outs to sucker straights.

guess i really shouldnt have been in this pot

so yeah, i played that hand pretty poorly and should fold to the raise even closing the action.

even if i hit my nutouts i wouldnt be shocked beeing freerolled.

When you cbet and calling, raising or folding to a raise all suck don't cbet.

On JT7rainbow a Cbet is fine.
With the draw it becomes bad. Cbet/Call OOP is such a poor play with 6 clean outs.

yeah i agree that this was pretty bad on my part.

It's only bad if you don't learn from it. If you do learn then it's a paid lesson for when you are at higher stakes.

Positive thinking wins

lol
a) not cbetting, and as played fold to the raise
b) only because one plays plo5k he ain´t a god by default
c)arrogant call is just such a beautiful description...

that sn is quite clever

flop is easy fold