Thoughts on this hand?

How would you play all streets (inc pre)

V - we have some dynamic - where I stacked him earlier.

He's down 666bb over the sample I've got,

hes called 11/52 times on BTN so 20% - how do we ascertain what kind of range this implies?

iPoker - €0.20 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 94.65 BB (VPIP: 31.27, PFR: 20.97, 3Bet Preflop: 10.18, Hands: 543)
SB: 121.35 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 10.99, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 92)
BB: 132.65 BB (VPIP: 23.72, PFR: 14.84, 3Bet Preflop: 3.76, Hands: 1,326)
UTG: 146.05 BB (VPIP: 27.01, PFR: 21.26, 3Bet Preflop: 8.45, Hands: 177)
Hero (CO): 189.3 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7 9 K J

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) A 2 3
BB checks, Hero bets 6.65 BB, BTN calls 6.65 BB, fold

Turn: (22.8 BB, 2 players) T
Hero bets 15.95 BB, BTN calls 15.95 BB

River: (54.7 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 27.35 BB, BTN raises to 65 BB, fold

BTN wins 141.6 BB

Feels a little spewy to me. I don't love our hand pre unless we were OTB. Really hate that we got called by BN.

Not sure how I feel about cbetting flop. We don't get an Ace to fold, and better FDs call. And if he has the NFD, we're destroyed. Plus, we don't have anything else going for us and if we hit our flush OTT, we don't feel great about it and could be betting away our stack.

River should be a check. He rates to have the NFD after calling turn, or Aces up or wheel that won't bet or call. It's for this reason that I don't like our hand pre. I think by betting, we just get better to call or raise, while worse hands fold.

any one elses thoughts on river?

I think maybe I c/c the river, don't like leading the river because when he jams I don't think were getting away from it a lot.

I'd much rather check call this river than bet it because I think he has the Ah a lot. I'm not sure how often he'll flat off suit A's pre or how often he'll raise the nfd on the flop, but regardless of what he has to go with it, the Ah is a very prominent part of his range after he calls your turn bet.

i guess i was thinking this would be cheaper than chekc calling, as no doubt V would bet bigger than half pot, and then fold to a raise, its odd as he raised almost all in but left like 3bbs, which makes me think its even more like nut flush

V maaaaay call with worse, small part of his range i guess

how about flop n turn

Raise pre is fine if vs are passive.

Flop bet a utterly standard you fold out tons of his equity a lot of the time.

Turn bet is button clicking. You could pot against an unknown and TID a lot but versus a loser with a grudge?

River we built too much of a pot with J high flush but betfold is still the best line because he doesn't get to the river without SDV.

Guess i didnt like to check call, and we fold out some of his range i.e non two pair Axxx

Roughly how often do you expect to get two folds on the flop?

Sloppy, didn´t spot BB call pre. Check behind flop.

What would you bet here if you had ATxx+? More I´m sure. If we´re gonna bluff, it should be a bet that is indistinguishable from a value bet.

You can check fold if he pots, no shame in that.

i would bet this with any bet

Fair enough although you may be missing value that way vs fish and missing folds vs nits.

Pre is completely fine/standard.
Flop I usually check trying to realize equity, btn shouldnt really be stabbing very often here, since we should have a lot of c/c's on this board.

Turn barrel is meh, the only alternative is to check/fold, but if you bet you'll have to triple barrel with no visibility at a very high frequency, since I expect our opponent to fold turn less than 10% of the time on this board texture.

River is wp.

Overall I think the best way to play this hand is to check flop and fold if button bets.

Will look into sizing on wet boards like this, I get lazy and use the 70% but on on betfair, for sure missing value against big draws, ty

With you stacking BTN recently and him already having a high 3bet% he may be more prone to 3-betting you so I'd probably tighten my opening range in CO and think folding pre is fine. With Kh FD it would ofc be standard.

@ apo5tol: Thing is we don't have that much equity to realise. We have no pair and only a J high FD. If we had a K high FD or even a pair to go with our hand (say it was A29hh) then checking would be fine but here we're basically just giving up (and can't call a bet) - giving up is OFC fine and I do prefer a check given our history with villain.

Once we do bet flop though we're commited to betting again on turn (and river blank) - just firing the one barrel is just really bad.

River I'm confused to what we are achieving kingandtheduck You say "V maaaay call with worse" - as though you think it's unlikely. If you don't think he's going to call with worse enough, then why are you betting? "making it cheaper" is not a reason. If you think he'll bet larger and that he has you beat too often then fold. Or if you think you're ahead enough then call.

Also the problem with betting river with a J high flush is it makes our checking range weaker. Villain can basically turn a ton of his hands into a bluff if he knows we're never checking a J high flush OTR.

In spite of the bolded, the x/f line will be slightly +EV. Do you believe that c-betting will have a higher expectation than whatever that is?

No, I agree c/f is probably best in a vacuum but it's probably good for our image to be 3 barrelling here and it's a decent hand to do so with since we have no SD value or implied odds but still have equity against non FD's Axxx hands.

guess i thought in game i can bet half pot, get value from a small part of his range, fold to a raise/shove - i can probs bet fold easier than fold to a 2/3 bet - probs a leak there

I'm surprised apo5tol likes the v-bet, actually. I ran a sim the other day and even if villain is raising the strong AX combos before the river, it's still too thin.

could you share the syntax for the sim?