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Old 06-01-2012, 03:13 PM   #1
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PLO20 - AAxx on turn after bad flop

$0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13030721

Hero (SB): $45.93 (229.7 bb)
BB: $20 (100 bb)
UTG: $52.05 (260.2 bb)
MP: $41.41 (207.1 bb)
CO: $23.17 (115.9 bb)
BTN: $26.06 (130.3 bb)

UTG - 90/30, fairly passive postflop though
BTN - 24/6, smallish sample

Preflop: Hero is SB with A 2 A 8
UTG raises to $0.70, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.70, Hero raises to $3, BB folds, UTG calls $2.30, BTN calls $2.30

Flop: ($9.20) 7 J 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($9.20) 2 (3 players)
Hero ?
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:45 PM   #2
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Re: PLO20 - AAxx on turn after bad flop

Bet fold turn. Sizing depends on what you usually do - I like about half pot or just under to extract max value.
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:34 PM   #3
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Re: PLO20 - AAxx on turn after bad flop

In these spots I like to bet fold flop and barrel safe turn cards if called. It's very hard for anybody to have a better made hand on the flop, so I think we're betting for value here and get called by lots of flush draws and possible small wraps. Very few hands have enough equity against AAxx on this flop to raise and get it in. I'd be barreling any turn card that isn't a club, an 8, a 9, or a T.

But it's definitely possible I'm wrong in that approach, I'm not great at PLO.
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:03 PM   #4
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Re: PLO20 - AAxx on turn after bad flop

I think bet/fold turn

I generally check many AAxx preflop from the blinds, thinking our most likely flop is an overpair which is difficult to play oop and if we hit top set it's more hidden, is this too conservative thinking on my part?
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:04 PM   #5
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Re: PLO20 - AAxx on turn after bad flop

flat pre, do not want to play bad aces 200+ BB oop in 3b pot

as played b/decide 1/2 pot
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:25 PM   #6
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Re: PLO20 - AAxx on turn after bad flop

bet flop...as played bet turn. Also i agree def wanna be flatting this pre
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Re: PLO20 - AAxx on turn after bad flop

Couple questions:

1)Do we flat AA82ds as well preflop?
2)When we get called on the turn, what's our line on non scare rivers?
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:04 PM   #8
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Re: PLO20 - AAxx on turn after bad flop

I'd bet/fold the flop. If I got called by the deeper stack I may bet the turn depending on his fold to cb % and raise cb%. Ott I'd bet 5.50 and sigh fold to the shortstack.

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Re: PLO20 - AAxx on turn after bad flop

oh yea, i'd flat pre and sqz double suited
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:09 PM   #10
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Re: PLO20 - AAxx on turn after bad flop

on non scary rivers, I'd be inclined to c/f or c/c vs the shortstack depending on his agg tendencies. And probably vbet vs the bigger stack as I assume most would want to start building the pot/protecting with stronger
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Re: PLO20 - AAxx on turn after bad flop

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I'd bet/fold the flop. If I got called by the deeper stack I may bet the turn depending on his fold to cb % and raise cb%. Ott I'd bet 5.50 and sigh fold to the shortstack.

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oh yea, i'd flat pre and sqz double suited
Yes, a bit..tyty!

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on non scary rivers, I'd be inclined to c/f or c/c vs the shortstack depending on his agg tendencies. And probably vbet vs the bigger stack as I assume most would want to start building the pot/protecting with stronger
Makes sense, have to think about stack sizes more
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