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04-01-2014 , 03:06 PM

Okke

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 263

Villain is a loose-passive fish playing 60/11, 27% flop donk and 1,5 AF over 121 hands.

Is this a fold on the turn?

IPoker, $0.10/$0.20, $0.04 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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SB: $20 (100 bb)
BB: $35.83 (179.1 bb)
MP: $22.47 (112.4 bb)
Hero (CO): $50.39 (252 bb)
BTN: $20 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T

MP folds, Hero raises to $0.60, 2 folds, BB calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.50) J

(2 players)
BB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $4.50

Turn: ($13.50) 5

(2 players)
BB bets $13.50, Hero ?

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04-01-2014 , 03:19 PM

nicknick315

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Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 349

Fold pre

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04-01-2014 , 03:25 PM

Okke

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 263

^ Nah, huge nit on the button and fish on BB

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04-01-2014 , 05:52 PM

ndahlhoff10

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Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,224

fold turn

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04-03-2014 , 02:36 AM

hideYAkids

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 518

you're super deep. call turn fold river(exploitable probably but i think overall this will be slighhhtly +ev with noobies doing weird $%9%. i think pre is ok given dynamics and probs good.

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04-03-2014 , 10:15 AM

Okke

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 263

Thanks for the thoughts.

I called turn, river was a 9 pairing the board. He checked and I decided not to bluff because SPR was so low and he might not fold better hands.

He had

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04-05-2014 , 09:07 AM

AndreasX

adept

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 943

fold turn vs this guy.. i mean leads flop - calls raise - pots turn... does this passive guy ever not have the nuts here?

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04-05-2014 , 09:29 AM

DickeLatte

adept

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,152

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Originally Posted by nicknick315

Fold pre

standard open from CO, what's your rfi% from CO?

hate these spots. Think turn is a fold vs this villain, in game i often call tho..

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04-06-2014 , 01:17 AM

Panama Ed

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 131

I usually am flatting otf, but if I do raise I'd go smaller.

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04-06-2014 , 08:40 AM

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Okke

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 263

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Originally Posted by Panama Ed

I usually am flatting otf, but if I do raise I'd go smaller.

Villain is a fish with a wide donking range and we are quite deep. I also like my hand so potting is fine imo.

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04-07-2014 , 07:05 PM

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F_Ivanovic

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,658

OK I saw that villain was loose passive and thought why are you raising flop. He does have a high donk % for a loose passive but maybe most of his donk's are a smaller size? Either way we are never in great shape if we GII otf but r/f here would just suck. So I flat flop and fold turn as played.

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04-07-2014 , 08:57 PM

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beauvanlaanen

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Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 12,487

Calling isn't terrible. We have a redraw to the SUPER NUTS!

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04-08-2014 , 12:09 PM

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sauhund

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Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 5,936

pre is obv fine (fold wtf...), flop is also fine ( i mean we can never make a big mistake building a pot with this hand although esp vs him i think flatting is slightly better since he probs pays you off anyway), turn is a pretty easy fold.

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04-10-2014 , 01:26 PM

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mdelore

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,315

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Originally Posted by Okke

Villain is a fish with a wide donking range and we are quite deep. I also like my hand so potting is fine imo.

His donking range is not wide at all on this turn im pretty sure. Even a fish would not play the 9 high flush this way which is what you're hoping for

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04-10-2014 , 05:01 PM

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Okke

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 263

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Originally Posted by mdelore

His donking range is not wide at all on this turn im pretty sure. Even a fish would not play the 9 high flush this way which is what you're hoping for

I meant the flop donking range. It seems calling the flop could be better than raising though. Yeah turn is a fold vs. this guy.

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04-11-2014 , 07:15 AM

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F_Ivanovic

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,658

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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen

Calling isn't terrible. We have a redraw to the SUPER NUTS!

Yeah, which means we have a whopping 5% equity which could be less if they have one of our straight flush outs.

For calling to be correct we would need to have like $200 behind and be paid in full every time we hit.

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