PokerStars - $1 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $573.57
SB: $52.21
BB: $578.62
UTG: $118.49
MP: $127.50
CO: $48.53

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has A 4 A 5




fold, fold, CO raises to $2.00, Hero raises to $7.50, fold, BB calls $6.50, CO calls $5.50

Flop: ($23.00, 3 players) Q 5 T
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $12.00, BB calls $12.00, CO raises to $41.03 and is all-in, [color=red]Hero ?



BB is a solid tag, CO unknown shortstacker. I don't use hud when I'm playing, so I don't have stats on villians.

So being this deep, I'm not sure what's my optimal play here, there'll be good turn cards for me but as well as some bad ones. Should I just re-raise to prevent ugly turn cards ruining the action or flat and keep his dominated flush draws in if he has one?

However if I were to get it in these deep, I'll be a favourite very seldom, flipping most of the time and a slight dog some of the time. Appreciate all thoughts and comments.

Wow interesting spot. I never know what to do in these spots but I'll have a go.

I think flatting might be better. The problem is he can still raise himself and that puts us in all sorts of trouble.

I think we do really badly when we 3bet and get jammed on though, and I'm fine for him to stick around.

I do a flat.

Was in a similar situation earlier, I flat and the other deep player flat (he was a superfish fwiw tho)

Also if the deep guy calls then maybe you can bluff him off str8s with your AA blockers and pwn him if he has a worse FD.

Given you're in position this is definitely a flat. Out of position it's more grim. Out of position i'm YOLO bombing it but in position i'm loving the spot and loving my life being able to flat our incredibly strong hand .

+1 @flat
...and i'd size the cbet a little bigger

thanks for the replies, so say now I flat, and villain repot, standard gii spot? although its abit gross for 570bb..

gii would be terrible I think against such a player. I dont think that a solid tag can be commited here with a dominated draw ~500BB deep.
I am in a nitfold camp here.

folding is not a case of being nitty, it's a case of not understanding our equity.

don't fold.

exactly. we're doing very well against some of villain's monsters (like wrap+fd) and we're not in really bad shape even against top set.

i agree that gii is still kinda gross, but folding is just out of question imo.

I pot

worst shape we can possibly be in is if villain has QQJcKc but let's be honest - he doesn't have that. If he has that hand we are 22% equity

A more possible hand he could have is any set+xcxc where we are 33%

But if he has just a dry set we are 38ish%

If he has 2 pair + straight draw we are 34%

If he has a wrap we are favorite. I dunno - I think a call is good but GII could be a little too ambitious.

Fun spot... I think I kinda like a min-raise with my range here given stacks, we wanna give him a slightly worse price with his naked wraps or pair+OE type hands. If he jams on top, always a set, and we just fold.

Villain may well have top set here, the stacks provide an awesome slowplay spot to get a big portion of stacks in OTF

wait, wut? you're advocating minraise folding the flop? are you joking?

I know you're a very good player who I've learned from on the forums, but please explain how putting money into the pot and then throwing away our strong equity is a good play.

Can't fold but AI 570bb deep with potentially just 35% eq is pukeeeee and pray.

If we put 90$ in otf and he repops doesn't math say we have to call anyway? Also if he's a good player he prolly wont put your flat on a set so may raise wider to try and scare you out with some holdings he might have that look deceptively stronger to him than they really are.

wow, you're hugely overthinking this. he's not going to be putting serious money into the pot 570 deep without top set, or at worst middle set with some other equity to go with it.

than call?
and wat?
bluff 2 streets on str8cards or win on clubs without getting any action?
could be superspew without any reads..

either fold or gii IMO.
would be nice to know anyway the SPR after villian pots but it could be around 1,5-2.
Anyway I dont think we would have any FE on str8cards in a monster pot here

we're not folding the flop, that's what i said. if we flat otf and the turn is the J and villain pots, we obv have to fold

Calling. Running like you, jam becomes an option

How is it over thinking to think that hero never has a set here?

It maybe over thinking to say that villain would assume hero would minraise fold the flop tho.

Srs Q, OP

Did you wonned?

most ppl didn't thats why they make a thread,

hope he did tho!

+1

If we just flat then we give BB a profitable flat too which means he is taking EV away from us. Clicking for value/protection seems good as I expect the EV gained here to be more than the amount lost vs sets when we raise/fold. Also folding if faced with a rejam, we clearly don't have enough equity.

Nice to see different thoughts, appreciate the replies guys, just show that this was such a tough spot.

In game, I tanked and re raise, BB tank folded and I took down the pot against shortstacker's dominated flush draw. I really would have hate my life if BB were to come over the top, I'm always never going to be a fav considering that he's one of the more solid reg and definitely wont be getting in light.

Hehe I must admit im running good in zoom, but not so in ring games. still don't know who you are