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06-09-2016 , 07:44 AM
Hi all,

Do u play it the same way? Villain with the deeper stack is a decent reg, I believe he will assume I'm in the top of my range when I raise his c-bet.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 2922875
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CO: $8.65
BTN: $4.22
SB: $13.54
BB: $10.30
Hero (UTG): $38.22
MP: $32.50

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with T 5 8 9
Hero raises to $0.35, MP raises to $1.20, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.85

Flop: ($3.75) 2 T 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $3.05, BTN calls $3.02 all in, Hero raises to $15.76
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06-09-2016 , 08:20 AM
Opening this hand UTG 6 handed is really really bad
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06-09-2016 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Oink
Opening this hand UTG 6 handed is really really bad
Double suited, would it also be a must open fold?
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06-09-2016 , 12:11 PM
Even double suited it's just barely too bad. JT96ds would be the first hand I raise.
Postflop I play it the same way.
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06-11-2016 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rulaZ
Even double suited it's just barely too bad. JT96ds would be the first hand I raise.
Postflop I play it the same way.
I agree. Position's so big in PLO. Can't go wrong folding hands that are going to make lots of second best hands. It's so rarely even going to make a top two pair. You're intentionally putting yourself in bad spots where you're playing a guessing game and that's not the recipe for success.
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06-11-2016 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Oink
Opening this hand UTG 6 handed is really really bad
+1. Winner's tilt.

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06-13-2016 , 06:42 AM
Your desire to open an average hand in UTG doesn't make sense to me.
If you were steamrolling everyone and they were scared I guess you could justify opening any hand from any position, though that seems to be more of a live poker phenomenon
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06-13-2016 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by OmahaDonk
Your desire to open an average hand in UTG doesn't make sense to me.
If you were steamrolling everyone and they were scared I guess you could justify opening any hand from any position, though that seems to be more of a live poker phenomenon
Definitely agree. Can't get away with aggressive opening from early position in any form of online 6-max but in live games with weak line ups I regularly open very aggressively and play very fast post-flop as an exploit and as a psychological ploy.
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06-13-2016 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by SolarAU
Definitely agree. Can't get away with aggressive opening from early position in any form of online 6-max but in live games with weak line ups I regularly open very aggressively and play very fast post-flop as an exploit and as a psychological ploy.
mindblowing
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06-13-2016 , 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by javale mc g
mindblowing
I'm glad your brain gets off on my posts, wanna get together? I'll show you a good time, I'll tell you about sick pokah theory and how to tell the tells.
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06-13-2016 , 10:50 AM
damn
easy there tough guy, no need to frighten me, your avatar looks intimidating enough...
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06-13-2016 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by javale mc g
damn
easy there tough guy, no need to frighten me, your avatar looks intimidating enough...
Wait you sound too passive aggressive.. I thought it was a bit of classic banter. relax bro.

My avatar is sick tho, check the table game in the background
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06-13-2016 , 02:44 PM
First thing that jumps out is the loose open, but tbh the interesting part is what we do on the flop, which no one has replied to.

Imo we can only be crushed against BTN, who occasionally has a set here, and we're probably 40% at worst vs MPs range. I think we have to ship here or fold as any JQKA/Spade likely helps them more than us.

I probably raise, expecting MP to fold a decent amount of the time, getting in HU against BTN who could easily have a single pair type hand or any draw. Once we raise we are kinda priced in to calling MPs shove in my view.

Thoughts?
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06-14-2016 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SolarAU
Wait you sound too passive aggressive.. I thought it was a bit of classic banter. relax bro.

My avatar is sick tho, check the table game in the background
your avatar is gay.
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06-14-2016 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by javale mc g
your avatar is gay.
50 people get mowed down in a gay night club and you rock the gay banter not sure if beat or brag haha. You're alright javale
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06-14-2016 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SolarAU
50 people get mowed down in a gay night club and you rock the gay banter not sure if beat or brag haha. You're alright javale
yeah man
I have to accept the L on that one, one can´t really hate on a friendly guy, it´s a shame...

still, expect to get trolled by me, your avatar tilts the **** out of me.
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06-15-2016 , 04:12 AM
On the flop calling looks better than a raise to me, with the plan of giving up on all aces and spades.

Leading the flop also an option, and also gives us the choice of reshipping over the short stack if we want to bet smaller. It is a good betting for information spot in some respects.

Last edited by monikrazy; 06-15-2016 at 04:18 AM.
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06-16-2016 , 11:37 AM
I dont see what you expect to get done here.

The only thing you really have going for yourself is hitting another 10 or 5 by the river?

I wouldnt be amazed if you were behind in equity when you got called or atleast even
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06-16-2016 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mandracon
Hi all,

Do u play it the same way? Villain with the deeper stack is a decent reg, I believe he will assume I'm in the top of my range when I raise his c-bet.

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 2922875
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $8.65
BTN: $4.22
SB: $13.54
BB: $10.30
Hero (UTG): $38.22
MP: $32.50

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with T 5 8 9
Hero raises to $0.35, MP raises to $1.20, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.85

Flop: ($3.75) 2 T 5 (3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $3.05, BTN calls $3.02 all in, Hero raises to $15.76
pre-flop horrible.

Post flop -- ?

It's a complex situation involving an all-in, a very vulnerable hand and whether to start a dry side pot.

I suspect you're thinking you're playing vs AAxx mp and BTN on draw all in. You seed the side pot with $15 with about another $12 left and your oop.
You're margins are way to thin. If you end up having to put more money in this pot it's very likely that you have zero to little equity on it.

This is an example of compounding mistakes. Pre-flop raise, .... mistake. Post-flop play ... too clever by half.

Pay attention to the money at the table. An overlooked short stack can get in the way of a certain types of plays.

The AAxx is going to fold unless they have the spade redraw. So your $17 flop raise gets you nothing but isolated against a probable weak draw. So I think your risk reward factor is poor because of the times you're going to be crushed out and out, or just drawn out on for the rest of your money.
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06-17-2016 , 04:47 PM
What are you guys suggesting, call and re-evaluate, fold awful turns, get it in on 98567 etc.?
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