Over a small smaple villain seems capable... fairly balanced stats e.g. 23/17/3.0 over 84 hands. TOT Chk-raise 13.
Am I good here enough? check-call MIGHT get value from J/9 high flushes + bluffs with nut blocker. Is this a better line?

? TOT? Total?

I am betting flop.

You have to call river as I presume he expects your 3b Ass to be cbetting flop. Its a very obvious bluff spot for him considering that he probably flats turn with 2 pair+ given your sizing. i doubt he is value shoving a worse flush, he is polarized to bluff or nuts imo.

Thanks for the reply, as always. Yeah total. The reason I didn't bet flop here is that he seemed a bit smarter than your average so would re-raise this more/ potentially out play me IP (which may have happened anyway lol) so wanted to keep this one small. Is that to weak?? I did think it's a great spot to bet at the time and figured I'd be. I know it's hard to say without playing the hand sometimes but would you lean towards a call here as played?

Sorry got distracted and stopping mid-sentence! That's meant to read: "... Figured I'd be in a tough spot betting but though enough flushes would be calling."

His continue-able range is going to be nearer to the bottom side excluding the As being live which will mostly not have a set or J8/KJ with it so you should be expecting large returns on furtehr betting streets if he is 'smart' enough to not stack off with the bottom end of things when you bet the turn large. If he 3bs flop I think its just a **** you shove moment. You are exploitable to bluff traps with J8/sets/Top 2 + blockers though.

how you expect to get value when you are a bit furhter up if you don't bet this which is odds hitting you more than him. Don't underestimate your K/GS/BDNFD aswell. i guess checking is fine but I just don't see any hands that I check with there that I raised pre with.

holy mother of god, mt fishnoob, do you even understand your own posts? you're making this so much more difficult than it should ever be at plo10

as for the hand, im guessing you were going for a check/shove on the flop?
as played bet turn and river bigger and fold to the river raise as no one ever bluffs at micros.

Maybe this was too cautious and sure this play was exploitable but I feel like the very few players in this pool adjust. They just kinda play their game and get on with it.

And I take your point about getting value... I guess I just wasn't really sure how to play this hand tbh

Lol thanks for the reply... I definitely overthink hands too tbf.
As for the check raise flop I guess I'd have too... Check-calling just puts me in a horrible spot.
Are you betting more on the turn to apply more pressure/get more folds as played??

I don't pay much attention to what the stake is past rake implications, I'm just describing the spot. 'Commands' are not going to help anyone , descriptions are better. I would advise against underestimating unknown players, it is just a kind of poker racial arrogance to assume that players in micros do not know about bluffing being an important part of a game which is pretty much called 'bluff' histroically. PLO10 has a varied player pool, lots of ballers in poor countries try very hard to scrape a small hourly and beat the rake (pot steals are more important in more heavily raked games). 'no one ever bluffs' is a clear over statement. The onyl reason people tend not to bluff is because their are to many idiots who are calling stations or bluffers themselves in a vacuum (cheeseburger countries and not rice countries (similar racial stereotyping but you get the hypocrisy i hope)) - its not that they haven't transcended to bluff territory with their stakes.

So villain check behind flop with NFD + just flats your small turn bet (where you are prob checking river a good amount) + then you bet river a small-inducing looking sizing and he raises? Just looks like villain could easily be FOS here and you say he seems fairly balanced with normal looking stats so I would not just discount a bluff "because it's micro's"

"...fold to the river raise as no one ever bluffs at micros."

This just isn't true, I play PLO5z and have come across a number of players, even at this level, that can bluff raise the river with nut blockers.

In order for this to be a bluff several conditions have to be met.
1) The villain has to have reasonable showdown value, probably 2pair+, coupled with the As blocker in order to call the turn.
2) He has to realize that his hand is not good enough to call the river barrel and turn his hand into a bluff raise.
Turning a decently strong made hand into a bluff is a fairly advanced play, which I wouldnt expect people at these stakes to make. Of course I havent played plo10 in forever, but even at plo100 I wouldnt expect most regs to make this move.

There's of course a chance that he is randomly spewing, which I think is a lot more likely than the play I described above, but I dont think we can rely on that happening frequently enough to make the call.

Valid points Ivanonic and grant. Absolutely very short sighted to rule out the bluff as ofc it does happen. I just am not sure it happens enough to make the call profitable even if villain seems to be at the top end of the pool. After he checks the flop my plan was always to put 2 barrels in for value thinking I'd hear from the nuts at some point here and (reluctantly) give up without enough information on him to exploit.

This is more or less the range I could put him on! Very occasionally air because of the way I played it (if he's feeling frisky). Fairly happy with the way it played out now.

And thanks for clarifying the breakdown 👍

Bet 3/4 pot on the river and your decision is easier. You induce bluffs and have no info. As it is lean towards calling, probably good 60% of the time.

Thanks.. you really think it's as much as 60%?... Because the turn and river bets are so small?

Bet flop. Bet more turn. As played call river.

River raise is probably always the nuts.