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12-19-2013 , 06:12 PM

DistelFink

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 176

Hi there,

I just came cross a small Omaha Rebuy Tournament and thought why not.
My Omaha knowledge is VERY limited (I basicly am only sure that you get 4 cards to start with and that you should play 2 of those).

so, that is the hand I went all in with, I would love a few comments if that was ok or ****e, and why.

Thank you all a lot.

Poker Stars, $2 Buy-in (400/800 blinds) Pot Limit Omaha Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #21818441

SB: 6,175 (7.7 bb)
BB: 18,285 (22.9 bb)
UTG+1: 14,185 (17.7 bb)
UTG+2: 11,005 (13.8 bb)
MP1: 12,005 (15 bb)
MP2: 6,265 (7.8 bb)
MP3: 30,161 (37.7 bb)
Hero (CO): 7,332 (9.2 bb)
BTN: 6,574 (8.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

2 folds, MP1 calls 800, MP2 raises to 3,600, MP3 folds, Hero raises to 7,332 and is all-in, 4 folds, MP2 calls 2,665 and is all-in

Flop: (14,530) 3

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (14,530) J

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (14,530) Q

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

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12-19-2013 , 07:00 PM

DaYu

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,279

um... yea you did good, kid.

12-19-2013 , 07:47 PM

apo5tol

veteran

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,238

so you got in less than 10bb with fairly premium kings...your question?

12-19-2013 , 08:20 PM

Kingandtheduck

veteran

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,050

very easy all in, congrats

12-19-2013 , 09:58 PM

VS_PKR

adept

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,159

Played it like a PLO veteran.

12-19-2013 , 10:24 PM

F_Ivanovic

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,658

OK so don't play tournament PLO so I may be way off the mark, but can we not consider folding here? We have no fold equity so basically can only really on our all in +EV. Against a 10% opening range we are flipping and against a wider 20% range we have 56.54%. So depending on how tight MP2 is I think we can at least consider folding.

12-19-2013 , 11:00 PM

Mt.FishNoob

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 12,241

Just throwing it out there that this can be a fold if the variables :

bubble distance, not having an ace your in hand, villain open range, are significant enough.

There's 8x chance of aa** as its 9 handed table. HAving an A with the KK makes it a no brainier but here it is not simple without information.

It's close though/marginal in any case other than the bubble being miles away, guy just lost a pot, is a fish.

12-19-2013 , 11:51 PM

GoGetaRealJob

QuadMasterSupreme

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,072

folding would not be terrible vs a nit close to the bubble, but it's still more or less a very std stack-off

6max I could never get away, but 9-handed it's not autoshove if there are ICM considerations. Not that I'm ever folding personally...

12-20-2013 , 09:28 AM

DaYu

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,279

If we fold this spot, we're doomed to get blinded out.

12-20-2013 , 10:04 AM

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DistelFink

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 176

I had especially difficulties with what hands to play and which not, course I found those '30 best starting hands of omaha' sheets and stuff, but you can wait forever and a freaking day to hit one of those.
Thanks for opinions and sorry if the question seems to stupid for some.
Next one I post will be more interesting I hope.

12-20-2013 , 10:11 AM

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GoGetaRealJob

QuadMasterSupreme

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,072

This is the small stakes PLO forum, noobs post here all the time

I suggest you check out the beginners' sticky at the top of the lobby

12-20-2013 , 11:29 AM

#12

DistelFink

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 176

Already on it since yesterday night.

12-20-2013 , 12:52 PM

#13

youngfourtweezie2

stranger

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 12

great hand never folding that hand w less then 10 bigs

12-21-2013 , 06:32 AM

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Mt.FishNoob

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 12,241

Quote:

Originally Posted by DistelFink

Actually getting a premium hand in omaha is quite often, I bleieve aces is 2.5% alon. Survivability in plo tournaments is rather easy especially because of the lack of antes and the easily +ev jams against multitudes of fish. Even when running bad its not uncommon to be a bottom stack in a plo tournament but then suddenly Its 3/3 and still crawling along.

And post information on the bubble, it is actually pivotal here and to be fair it can always be pivitol even if you have ds aces.

Last edited by Mt.FishNoob; 12-21-2013 at 06:42 AM.

12-21-2013 , 01:16 PM

#15

DistelFink

centurion

Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 176

to bubble: 16 ppl left, 7 in the money. So nothing exciting yet.
I wasn´t quite sure if it wouldn´t have been better to wait a bit longer or if you can even blind down more in Plo tourneys.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought 'just' AA in the starthand is not all that good, but to look for sth like double suited connected highcards with big pairs and t+ kickers, or on that line.

12-21-2013 , 02:00 PM

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GoGetaRealJob

QuadMasterSupreme

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,072

Yea, no choice but to gamble if the bubble's that far away. You'll be blinded out waiting in a couple orbits.

AAxx is favorite against anything pre, but not all match-ups are created equal. Go to propokertools.com and run a few sims with AA vs different types of hands.

Gonna close this now, you can ask follow-ups in the beginners' thread. Don't hesitate to post new threads with a fresh hand history, obviously.

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