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Old 08-30-2011, 10:04 AM   #16
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thx for posting this. sidenote: i really have to say that i would applaud for different statements than the stanford crowd did
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:15 AM   #17
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This thread gone be good
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:39 AM   #18
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This should be very good - will read when I have more time on my hands. Good work naps.
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:57 AM   #19
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I am a NLHE player, but I think this thread can be very, very good. Loved the video of Steve and read almost all articles posted.
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:59 AM   #20
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Mindfulness meditation, therapy, respect all of your opponents, and if you always expect to win your downswings will be like hell and your upswings will not bring you much happiness.
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Old 08-30-2011, 11:01 AM   #21
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Also loved the vid.

His thoughts on death being what makes life worth living is what I - and undoubtedly most others on the planet - know in their hearts, but never really start living accordingly.

Most people are not satisfied with their work, let alone love what they do. However, they may pursue their dreams elsewhere, via hobbies, volunteering, their kids... Obv it sucks that most people spend a significant portion of their day "grinding it out" to put food on the table, but that fact of life is hard to change for most people.

Just before I watched the vid, I had a conversation with my 58-year-old dad about the progress his making with golf after some 3-4 years of regular play. He's also started taking classical singing lessons and enjoying it to the max. It's safe to say he won't become a pro in either of his hobbies, but he's passionate about them and clearly enjoys life as a result.

It's the pursuit, rather than the realisation of our dreams, that truly makes us happy. So "dream on", y'all!
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Old 08-30-2011, 02:12 PM   #22
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and if you always expect to win your downswings will be like hell and your upswings will not bring you much happiness.
This is the most important thing, IMO. Detach from your expectations, just move ahead decision by decision, make small steps towards your goal and embrace your emotions. But ffs, don't expect anything!
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Old 08-30-2011, 02:14 PM   #23
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^ couldn't agree more.

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My studies just started. Today we had a lecture by Pekka Himanen, a Finnish philosophist, maybe the best-known. He finished his doctorate at the age of 20, after only 2 years of studies. First I was lost on the lecture, but at one point, I was completely mezmerized. In the end he showed this video, which I found extremely inspirational, and was even on the verge of tears because of it's pure beauty.

this only gives me more power and determination to finish what I have started...thanks for posting this



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I think one of my main tilt factors is when I make a really -EV play. Like if I make a bluff shove and I realize by my opponent's call that the bluff was really really terrible, because that opponent clearly calls way too wide and should not be bluffed. My mind then starts criticizing myself 10 times per minute and I start questioning whether I can really be a winning player if I occasionally give away an entire stack to a fish etc.

Anyone know how to think about this?
I struggle with this too quite a bit. One or two bad moves and my game breaks down.

The positive thing is that you have realized it. Eliminating your C-game is more valuable than trying to pimp up your A-game. Once you know your mistakes, you realize that there is room for improvement and that should motivate you to push further, to learn more.

I suggest you pick up a routine before each session: write down your C-game characteristics (e.g. barreling too much, getting it in too light), their triggers (e.g. playing tired, making a clearly -ev play) and your long term goals, whatever they are. I have found this routine to be very useful to get the right mindset when you start grinding. Then next time you are about to make that clearly -ev play, you can look back at the notes and realize that it definitely is not a winning play, and act accordingly. Not sure if this works for everyone, but it has worked for me quite well. The goal is to eliminate your C-game, the biggest leaks you have. Now that you have identified your leak, try to figure out what is the best way to fix it.

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Old 08-30-2011, 02:19 PM   #24
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This is the most important thing, IMO. Detach from your expectations, just move ahead decision by decision, make small steps towards your goal and embrace your emotions. But ffs, don't expect anything!
I find if I filter my hands by day (so I can revise once my session is over), and do my pre-game reviews with the past week's hands, I tend to keep my mind pretty clear of my downswings.
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Old 08-30-2011, 02:43 PM   #25
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I find if I filter my hands by day (so I can revise once my session is over), and do my pre-game reviews with the past week's hands, I tend to keep my mind pretty clear of my downswings.
Sry I dont understand what you mean by this... can you explain a little more? Like today lets say its the 2nd of march you have the date of the 1st of march... and tomorrow you will see the results of the 2nd of march?!... What your HEM is showing I mean?
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Old 08-30-2011, 05:12 PM   #26
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Posting to say that this was an excellent OP.

Definitely a lot to think about after reading through this topic as a whole.
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:54 PM   #27
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i'm just starting out playing PLO, but one thing i would love to be able to do is not look at results, however the problem with this is that its difficult to avoid seeing your results when you go to review a session.

has anyone found a way to do this? i would be happy even if there was a way to only look at marked hands without seeing the results from a session, but as it stands as soon as i go into the sessions tab i can see my results.

i use HEM but would switch to HEM2 or PT3 if necessary.
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Old 08-31-2011, 01:59 AM   #28
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It's getting late, but I will read everything tomorrow. Just started playing PLO and love it. Maybe tomorrow I'll hate it.
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:22 AM   #29
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i'm just starting out playing PLO, but one thing i would love to be able to do is not look at results, however the problem with this is that its difficult to avoid seeing your results when you go to review a session.

has anyone found a way to do this? i would be happy even if there was a way to only look at marked hands without seeing the results from a session, but as it stands as soon as i go into the sessions tab i can see my results.

i use HEM but would switch to HEM2 or PT3 if necessary.
you can always click "today" & "show only marked hands" from the "Hands" tab before you start a session. This way you will never see the actual result of the session / day. This obviously works only if you mark all the interesting hands during the session and don't miss anything.

I've been trying to pick up a habit only to look at the cashier or results at the end of each week, but I've been failing miserably. I look at my graph very frequently and emotions swing right along with the graph.
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:48 AM   #30
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My friend showed me this article on the benefits of meditation: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0121144007.htm

I know i dont get so tilted and find it easier to quit after starting a few months ago.
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