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Old 07-31-2012, 07:12 AM   #1
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PLO 100 2P+FD

UTG fish 67/50.
We deep here, what line is best here? If we bet turn and he call, what to do on river? What to do if he raise? (against fish and agains reg who can bluff A blocker)

PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) ZOOM - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $100.00
SB: $205.59
Hero (BB): $208.10
UTG: $207.50
MP: $118.79
CO: $98.98

SB posts SB $0.50, Hero posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has K Q 5 Q

UTG raises to $3.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50, 2 players) 5 4 K
Hero checks, UTG bets $5.72, Hero raises to $20.00, UTG calls $14.28

Turn: ($47.50, 2 players) 3
Hero
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:56 AM   #2
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Re: PLO 100 2P+FD

I bet 35 / decide. I am more likely to call a raise vs the fish than a reg.

If called, I continue betting.
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:01 AM   #3
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Re: PLO 100 2P+FD

3bet pre
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:33 AM   #4
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Re: PLO 100 2P+FD

i think i b/f unless you think he raises worse

i also bet river for value if called
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Old 07-31-2012, 04:47 PM   #5
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Re: PLO 100 2P+FD

please dont 3b pre

turn depends how agro he is, v normal LP fish get as much in as possible, fold to any reraise, 30-38 OTT, bomb riv

v a floaty tricky/agro reg, x/c xc all day some %, bet 1/2pot call turn raise, call off if you ahve balls some %. a good chunk, bet turn turn, x/c riv imo
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:10 PM   #6
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Re: PLO 100 2P+FD

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please dont 3b pre

turn depends how agro he is, v normal LP fish get as much in as possible, fold to any reraise, 30-38 OTT, bomb riv

v a floaty tricky/agro reg, x/c xc all day some %, bet 1/2pot call turn raise, call off if you ahve balls some %. a good chunk, bet turn turn, x/c riv imo
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Old 07-31-2012, 05:46 PM   #7
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Re: PLO 100 2P+FD

how many hands on villain, and any postflop reads? I probably prefer 3b pre w/ info given and I'd keep betting without the intention of folding.
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:55 PM   #8
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Re: PLO 100 2P+FD

3b is ok depending on villain imo but can go either way.

Flop is wp. Turn probably just bet something and dont fold vs this guy. If he is super aggro and floaty a c/c x2 might be good.

And about getting raised on turn vs non-fish. Ppl are worried about getting bluffed by naked A. Even if villain is gonna have A in his hand every time he raises he's gonna be super heavily weighted towards having the NF rather than just the blocker after opening UTG and calling our raise on the flop. What kind of A blocker hand does this? Apart from AAxx hands there arnt that many.. Also not everyone is gonna call our raise with a non-improved AAxx hand,.. so vs some we're hoping for pretty much exactly AAxx with gs or oesd. Compare that to all the gazillion As*s**:20% hands that opens UTG... Also not everyone bluffs 100% with the naked A either.

Is parley the word Im looking for?


That said, all this is out the window vs 60/50 guy but OP asked about the same spot vs reg..

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Old 08-01-2012, 04:24 AM   #9
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Re: PLO 100 2P+FD

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I don't like a 3-bet at all pre, even vs this fish.
You are still OOP and 200BB deep with a hand that does not make a lot of nut hands.
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Old 08-01-2012, 06:12 AM   #10
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Re: PLO 100 2P+FD

3betting is fun
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:56 AM   #11
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Re: PLO 100 2P+FD

Is there any merit to checking turn to induce bluffs? (against non passive guys)

I mean his range is more weighted towards FD than ours. (since he called and we bet). So should make sense for him to bet when checked too.

Also are we really getting calls on turn AND river by low-mid flushes or 67xx anyways?
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:41 AM   #12
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Re: PLO 100 2P+FD

oups though we were in position, 3betting is still fine
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