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PLO 10 - Fold botton set on AK9cc vs a guy with 0% 3bet?

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04-30-2017 , 01:52 PM

gallagher99

grinder

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 559

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37714934

BB: $19.02 (190.2 bb)
MP: $6.06 (60.6 bb)
CO: $7.28 (72.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $13.87 (138.7 bb)
SB: $12.64 (126.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8

MP raises to $0.30, CO raises to $1.05, Hero calls $1.05, 2 folds, MP calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.30) K

(3 players)
MP checks, CO bets $3.16, 2 folds

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UTG is 31/7/0 in 58 hands
CO is 42/3/0 in 78 hands

My plan was to call and overplay them on some flops/turns.
Is it a terrible fold?

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04-30-2017 , 10:43 PM

z0mgtiltz

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 10,944

If you meant overplay, you clearly didn't stick to your guns
If you meant outplay, I'm interested in how you're going to outplay them with an SPR of 2

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05-01-2017 , 12:01 AM

Darkfangs

grinder

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 540

This is a fold preflop, not sure why you want to cold call with a very mediocre hand.

As played I don't think I can fold on the flop, why are you playing the hand if you basically get the best flop you can hope for other than a straight?

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05-01-2017 , 01:37 AM

oxycottin

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Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13

fold preflop, especially with a mp opener that can come over the top of you..

you know this will be multiway postflop, your flushdraws will often be dominated, as will your straightdraws.

since you go to the flop i would say fold on this board here, since you are not comfortable with any turncard but a 9.

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05-01-2017 , 02:08 AM

horseofhell

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2 of diamonds is a pretty comfortable turn

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05-01-2017 , 02:56 AM

oxycottin

stranger

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13

often we are drawing to 1 out here or runner runner str8, i wouldnt be too comfortable

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05-01-2017 , 04:40 AM

AveeMaria

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Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 3,714

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Originally Posted by z0mgtiltz

If you meant overplay, you clearly didn't stick to your guns

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Originally Posted by z0mgtiltz

If you meant outplay, I'm interested in how you're going to outplay them with an SPR of 2

This loosely translates to: there is no debate about pre - it's a clear fold.

To quantify this, work out how often you flop a set and set ideal scenarios about how that would play out against a stacking off range and you'll see how negative this is. This gets even more amplified against those stacks.

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05-01-2017 , 10:56 AM

gallagher99

grinder

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 559

meant to say outplay

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05-01-2017 , 11:07 AM

NMcNasty

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Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,990

Flop is probably a fold vs a super tight range. Just a calc problem. Pre is bad with this stack size, and marginal at best with 100bb.

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