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10-13-2014 , 01:25 PM
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This has always been a hand that confuses me. While it is always ahead preflop (I think?) it is very hard to improve and therefore will be difficult to play on most flops. Is it ok to fold this pre? Should I be 3betting with this hand?
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10-13-2014 , 01:42 PM
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sometimes ill 3b on btn vs co,if it has Ahigh suits, depends how deep we are
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10-13-2014 , 01:56 PM
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yeah im always ready to get it in vs a short stack. But say if I open UTG with AAAx with one suit and get 3bet by the BTN 200bb effective, should I be 4betting? flatting? folding? should I even be opening in the first place? idk
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10-13-2014 , 02:10 PM
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In my opinion...I'm folding this hand if I'm 4-bet as 2 of my outs are already in my hand and my opponent may already have something like AcKdQhx. At that point, you're hoping the board comes out this 2d9h6c3s10h and you win the hand with a pair of Aces. Other than that, into the muck it goes.
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10-13-2014 , 02:16 PM
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Play them extremely carefully, almost only in position, and almost only if you have a suit. I would prob recommend folding AAAx from almost all positions other than btn if unopened so far, and CO if btn is unlikely to cause trouble. Keep pot small post flop.

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In my opinion...I'm folding this hand if I'm 4-bet as 2 of my outs are already in my hand and my opponent may already have something like AcKdQhx. At that point, you're hoping the board comes out this 2d9h6c3s10h and you win the hand with a pair of Aces. Other than that, into the muck it goes.
Yeah man it would suck so bad to gii preflop with AAAx vs AKQx
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10-13-2014 , 02:28 PM
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In my opinion...I'm folding this hand if I'm 4-bet as 2 of my outs are already in my hand and my opponent may already have something like AcKdQhx. At that point, you're hoping the board comes out this 2d9h6c3s10h and you win the hand with a pair of Aces. Other than that, into the muck it goes.
what are you talking about, getting it in pre vs AKQx is the best case scenario. I'm worried about if i 4bet, get called and im OOP and somewhat deep, its gonna be extreeemely hard to play given that the opponent is putting me on AA and its very hard to improve if I dont flop a flush draw, all of those factors putting me at a huge disadvantage post flop.
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10-13-2014 , 02:39 PM
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what are you talking about, getting it in pre vs AKQx is the best case scenario. I'm worried about if i 4bet, get called and im OOP and somewhat deep, its gonna be extreeemely hard to play given that the opponent is putting me on AA and its very hard to improve if I dont flop a flush draw, all of those factors putting me at a huge disadvantage post flop.
That's what I'm saying is that other than your 2 aces, the hand doesn't improve. Having played (and lost) with this type of hand, the flush draw nor the set comes and you've staked off with only a pair of aces. My apologies if I misunderstood your question.
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10-13-2014 , 02:50 PM
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That's what I'm saying is that other than your 2 aces, the hand doesn't improve. Having played (and lost) with this type of hand, the flush draw nor the set comes and you've staked off with only a pair of aces. My apologies if I misunderstood your question.
right, ok I understand what you're saying now
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10-13-2014 , 05:21 PM
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Play them extremely carefully, almost only in position, and almost only if you have a suit. I would prob recommend folding AAAx from almost all positions other than btn if unopened so far, and CO if btn is unlikely to cause trouble. Keep pot small post flop.



Yeah man it would suck so bad to gii preflop with AAAx vs AKQx
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im never 3b in SB/BB either would probs fold depends if its a min r on BTN
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10-14-2014 , 10:00 AM
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im never 3b in SB/BB either would probs fold depends if its a min r on BTN
I wouldn't even bother playing this hand on BTN especially if you know the SB and BB will call just to see a flop. Now you're investing more money into a hand that you really didn't want to play to begin with. And if they call your c-bet, now you're really screwed.
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10-14-2014 , 10:19 AM
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^If the pot is unopened and it folds to you on the btn with AAAx you really need to raise.

fwiw I think discussions like this have very little impact on over-all winrate and game plan. Just keep in mind "only play in position, keep pot small post flop" and that's that. This is such a rare instance.
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10-14-2014 , 10:33 AM
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I totally agree that if it is folded to you, you should absolutely raise and c-bet the flop with hopes of taking the pot down right there. But there are those rare occasions where the SB and BB feel like fighting back and will call the raise and the c-bet. Now you're in trouble because you're investing money solely on a pair of Aces.

And you're right, situations like this don't have an overall impact on your win rate and only occur maybe once or twice a session.
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10-15-2014 , 11:32 AM
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btw if BB is fighting back I would 4b 100% of the time - now checking poker stove to see is this is reasonable
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10-15-2014 , 11:54 AM
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Hey kingandtheduck...why would you 4bet here? If BB only raises maybe 10% of their range in this spot, wouldn't one of your outs (ie Axxx) be a part of their range?
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10-15-2014 , 12:01 PM
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Hey kingandtheduck...why would you 4bet here? If BB only raises maybe 10% of their range in this spot, wouldn't one of your outs (ie Axxx) be a part of their range?
What do you mean "one of our outs"? If villain 3b's Axxx when we have AAAx then WE cover his outs, not the reversed. We WANT him to have the last ace in his hand.
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10-15-2014 , 12:17 PM
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Oh ok...i get it now. I guess my question was that even though we have the villain covered if they have Axxx, would it still be wise for us to stack off with only a pair of aces?
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10-15-2014 , 12:37 PM
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wtf ofc it will be you're a favorite with AAAx vs Axxx lol
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