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PL25 Flop allin with 3 pair PL25 Flop allin with 3 pair

07-02-2015 , 03:39 PM
Not sure how to play this spot. If my Odds oracle calculations is ok this is +EV with all that fold EQ, but maybe its more +EV with calling and raising blank turns actually? Opp opens 14% in MP.



    Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36976271

    BTN: $42.85 (171.4 bb)
    SB: $28.75 (115 bb)
    BB: $138.65 (554.6 bb)
    UTG: $38.03 (152.1 bb)
    MP: $33.66 (134.6 bb)
    Hero (CO): $99.58 (398.3 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with T K 7 Q
    UTG folds, MP raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, SB folds, BB calls $0.60

    Flop: ($3.50) 7 T Q (4 players)
    BB checks, MP bets $2.75, Hero raises to $11.60, 2 folds, MP raises to $32.81 and is all-in, Hero calls $21.21

    Turn: ($69.12) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($69.12) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)




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    PL25 Flop allin with 3 pair Quote
    07-02-2015 , 07:47 PM
    Fold or 3bet preflop to win the BTN depending on the opponent.

    Smooth call flop and revaluate turn (We can be a small favorite against a big draw or a big underdog against a set by raising)
    PL25 Flop allin with 3 pair Quote
    07-02-2015 , 08:54 PM
    This will hover around 50% generally, but it's easily swung on dynamic considering how ****ed you are if actually behind.

    MP needs to be cbetting alot of AAT9 KQJ JT97 etc to be raising, which is not unsusual

    in single raised pot considering stack sizes and multiwayness then the flop is actually not a nice stack off position

    I don't like calling flop actually because a turn barrel is always happening so i if calling flop its pretty much to be raising turns, most semi good players will be checking turn texture changers with whole range, so I like call if can get alot of value in raising turns that seem nice. meh
    PL25 Flop allin with 3 pair Quote
    07-03-2015 , 04:53 PM
    Mandatory 3b pre. Flop raise is not good in 4way single raised pot with no idea of other players holdings. Especially deep.
    PL25 Flop allin with 3 pair Quote
    07-03-2015 , 05:41 PM
    Just call flop unless you're ready to put your stack in on a race where you're either 50% vs a strong draw or way behind against a set.

    Most times I find myself against a set in these spots.
    PL25 Flop allin with 3 pair Quote
    07-05-2015 , 02:19 PM
    Fold flop, we are likely behind to a wrap here. The odds you have to call for housing up are poor and too small considering after flop raise you're likely facing a turn bet which will compound the mistake on the flop you make.

    I fold.
    PL25 Flop allin with 3 pair Quote
    07-06-2015 , 05:48 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MadDogMoody
    Fold flop, we are likely behind to a wrap here. The odds you have to call for housing up are poor and too small considering after flop raise you're likely facing a turn bet which will compound the mistake on the flop you make.

    I fold.
    uhhh what?! For starters, we are 'only' behind to the full wrap of KJ98. And that's by like 5%. Every other wrap we are marginally ahead of.

    We don't need to house up when we have the best hand (although it's nice to guarantee winning the hand!)

    Both calling and raising flop are OK.
    PL25 Flop allin with 3 pair Quote
    07-06-2015 , 06:55 AM
    looks fine, can 3bet pre too
    PL25 Flop allin with 3 pair Quote

          
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