****Official Stars Regulars Thread****

[GoGetaRealJob]

Originally Posted by urubu111

interesting discussion about deep/ante tables on stars.

i think this tables run less than 100bbs tables because fish get scared so big stacks. usually theres less fishs at ante tables than 100bbs tables... sometimes ante line up is full of regs.

about stacks, ya 100bbs stacks at ante tables are ''short''. i dont think $200 at 1/2ante is 100bbs. its more like 50-60bbs eff. but i think the min and max stacks are good. 100min, 250max, its fine. i agree w what napsus said about 150bbs min stack making fish scared.

fish like to gamble, why sit w $300 at 1/2 if he can play 3/6 or even take a shot at 5/10 ?thats why i think theres less fishs at ante tables then 100bbs.

Originally Posted by aceonetime

Fwiw I have 3 friends who are complete fish and their attitude is exactly as urubu described. As soon as they have min buy in for the next level they sit.
They get enjoyment out of the size of the pot in $ amount. They aren't sittin there saying "OMG 500bb pot so sick" if it's still only $100

U guys r prob right in that many fish do this, but there's also many who buy-in full. Whales at the deep tables r rare already, I'd much rather get rid of the SSing regs than be able to play with a couple fish bringing the remainder of their roll to the table - who based on the logic u described would be playing higher with short stacks regardless.

[roggo]

Originally Posted by SW_Kaizer

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Please learn to link properly, ty!

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[F3rz3nd3]

Originally Posted by urubu111

i asked because i see you playing in tables at plo50 that are tougher than lots of plo200 tables.

i think you are very bad at table selection.

tbh this is one of my biggest leaks, i never tableselect, just start up as many tables i wanna play and "lets go!". Also never really learned to tableselect right... enlighten me

[GoGetaRealJob]

1.find a table with a fish in it
2.sit on his left
3.profit

that'll be $3.50, u can pay on stars

[Jabonator]

Originally Posted by F3rz3nd3

tbh this is one of my biggest leaks, i never tableselect, just start up as many tables i wanna play and "lets go!". Also never really learned to tableselect right... enlighten me

Started table selecting a bit more lately, instead of just going "I feel like playing, I'll fire up as many tables of my usual stake as there's running, and hope to win". This just ends up in playing nitty, reggy tables, where nobody wins. But if you have at least one more aggro 3bettor there, who you can abuse alongside playing your regular TAG game, you'll be going for profit. And the looser the tables, the closer it gets to printing money.

[Elglado]

Originally Posted by Jabonator

Started table selecting a bit more lately, instead of just going "I feel like playing, I'll fire up as many tables of my usual stake as there's running, and hope to win". This just ends up in playing nitty, reggy tables, where nobody wins. But if you have at least one more aggro 3bettor there, who you can abuse alongside playing your regular TAG game, you'll be going for profit. And the looser the tables, the closer it gets to printing money.

Pokerstars always wins

[F3rz3nd3]

Originally Posted by Elglado

Pokerstars always wins

so true!!!

[Olangotang]

anyone up for some deepstacked 2plo sometime?

we should totally get like 12+ tables going of all 2p2ers, not allowed to leave unless you lose 250+bis or smt lol

[Olangotang]

Originally Posted by urubu111

why you do that? do you play poker for fun or do you really think you win more at ante tables?

serious question, bcause i noticed you only play ante tables. you prefer play 0.25/0.50 ante than 0.5/1. why if 0.5/1 has more fishs than 0.25/50a ?

i should really heed this advice also, cheers urubu for making me think about that :P i always have mentality of deepstack is funner and more interesting which is true but we are trying to win money too not just have fun/lols

also to add to the discussion sinc ei play deep alot, i would prefer if the games were the same players for it to be min. 200bb bi but i think in reality it would be bad for the games. lots of people who would buy in for 100 would not buyin for 200+ and also alot of the players who do buy in for 100bb tend to be weak/scared/worse players imo, ofc you get the nitty regs who are bad for the games and is annoying when you get into tricky spots because of a short stacked player but that happens at normal tables to and if they do win a pot you're playing deep with a player who is probably not as comfortable/used to playing deep so you win money that way. they also tend to do stupid stuff like not buyin 250 when they are deep/position in a fish which is good for you.

But yea in theory it sounds good but i think we'd see a significant hit to the number of deep tables running if it happened

[F3rz3nd3]

PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $514.42
CO: $399.31
BTN: $904.55
Hero (SB): $301.25
BB: $144.84
UTG: $164.38

Hero posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00, MP posts ante $0.20, CO posts ante $0.20, BTN posts ante $0.20, Hero posts ante $0.20, BB posts ante $0.20, UTG posts ante $0.20

Pre Flop: ($2.70) Hero has Q J 3 9

UTG raises to $4.70, fold, fold, BTN calls $4.70, fold, fold

Flop: ($12.10, 2 players) 5 Q K
UTG checks, BTN bets $7.00, UTG raises to $18.00, BTN raises to $65.56, UTG calls $47.56

Turn: ($143.22, 2 players) A
UTG bets $93.92 and is all-in, BTN calls $93.92

River: ($331.06, 2 players) 6

UTG shows Q 8 7 7 (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 32%, Flop 7%, Turn 17%)
BTN shows 8 K K T (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 68%, Flop 93%, Turn 82%)
BTN wins $328.26


PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: $510.45
CO: $365.92
BTN: $1,268.87
Hero (SB): $303.15
BB: $183.76
UTG: $311.32

Hero posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00, MP posts ante $0.20, CO posts ante $0.20, BTN posts ante $0.20, Hero posts ante $0.20, BB posts ante $0.20, UTG posts ante $0.20

Pre Flop: ($2.70) Hero has Q 5 5 4

UTG raises to $4.00, MP raises to $14.70, fold, BTN calls $14.70, fold, fold, UTG calls $10.70

Flop: ($46.80, 3 players) 8 6 6
UTG checks, MP bets $22.34, BTN calls $22.34, UTG raises to $95.00, fold, BTN raises to $320.00, UTG calls $201.42 and is all-in

Turn: ($661.98, 2 players) 3

River: ($661.98, 2 players) 3

UTG shows 5 K 6 K (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 67%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
BTN shows 8 6 J 4 (Full House, Sixes full of Eights) (Pre 33%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
BTN wins $659.18


Yeah, looks really like tough competition!

[F3rz3nd3]

some more for the lulz:

PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $510.85
SB: $366.82
BB: $1,151.24
Hero (UTG): $309.25
MP: $189.86
CO: $420.77

SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00, BTN posts ante $0.20, SB posts ante $0.20, BB posts ante $0.20, Hero posts ante $0.20, MP posts ante $0.20, CO posts ante $0.20

Pre Flop: ($2.70) Hero has 6 2 A 7

fold, fold, CO calls $1.00, fold, fold, BB raises to $3.00, CO raises to $10.70, BB calls $7.70

Flop: ($23.10, 2 players) 3 3 2
BB checks, CO bets $5.00, BB calls $5.00

Turn: ($33.10, 2 players) A
BB checks, CO bets $31.61, BB calls $31.61

River: ($96.32, 2 players) K
BB checks, CO bets $93.52, BB calls $93.52

CO shows J 2 T Q (Two Pair, Threes and Twos) (Pre 44%, Flop 2%, Turn 0%)
BB shows 3 A 8 J (Full House, Threes full of Aces) (Pre 56%, Flop 98%, Turn 100%)
BB wins $280.56


PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

CO: $376.48
BTN: $1,214.19
Hero (SB): $296.25
BB: $249.80
UTG: $318.54

Hero posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00, CO posts ante $0.20, BTN posts ante $0.20, Hero posts ante $0.20, BB posts ante $0.20, UTG posts ante $0.20

Pre Flop: ($2.50) Hero has K 8 9 4

UTG calls $1.00, fold, BTN raises to $4.00, fold, fold, UTG calls $3.00

Flop: ($10.50, 2 players) J 9 Q
UTG checks, BTN bets $8.00, UTG calls $8.00

Turn: ($26.50, 2 players) T
UTG checks, BTN bets $18.00, UTG raises to $64.00, BTN calls $46.00

River: ($154.50, 2 players) 8
UTG checks, BTN bets $95.00, UTG calls $95.00

BTN shows 4 3 4 9 (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 41%, Flop 48%, Turn 25%)
UTG shows 7 A 9 T (Straight, Queen High) (Pre 59%, Flop 52%, Turn 75%)
UTG wins $341.70

[F3rz3nd3]

Originally Posted by Olangotang

anyone up for some deepstacked 2plo sometime?

we should totally get like 12+ tables going of all 2p2ers, not allowed to leave unless you lose 250+bis or smt lol

so leaving after stars raked in 150 BI´s and some lucky guy won bout three-fiddy! mmh... sounds good man!

[Olangotang]

^rake cap is .30 so if we get deep would be better then playing higher stakes

also im suggesting it for the fun not the money side :P

[Elglado]

Can't you do a homegame instead if it's only for the prestige?
Maybe put up a sidebet or w/e

[Olangotang]

real money and other people joining if we do only have 4-5 is fun hehe, its better then freezeout imo and crossbooking home games is annoying, its 2plo just for the lols who cares about the rake

the not allowed to leave thing was a joke lol, like i would suggest you have to play 100 vpip but i think if every hand is 4/5/6bet pre and people play stats like 60/40/35 it would be funner then flipping every hand

maybe like first couple rounds all flips to get deep then just start playing w/e people want to lol