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Old 11-07-2010, 08:50 AM   #61
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Re: **The Official SSPLO Stats Thread**

Oke thx, so instead of getting tighter to bring my non sd winnings back up I should play alot looser? So by opening and 3betting more you take more pots because you got initiative right?
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Old 11-13-2010, 07:06 PM   #62
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My most recent 11K hands. Anything Jumping out I should improve before taking shots @ PLO100?



Any other stats you'd like to see?
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Old 11-15-2010, 10:32 AM   #63
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My most recent 11K hands. Anything Jumping out I should improve before taking shots @ PLO100?
Personally, I'd like a higher Winrate prior to moving up, but ymmv. Maybe 2-3BB/100 (or ~6bb/100). 3 BI in 11k hands isn't really that much afaik.

Also, I'll piggyback on your stats with mine because they're fairly similar...





Edit: I'm fairly confident I c-bet the flop ~10% too much. I think I could also 3! more in LP (although the games I play in are so limpy that iso-raising or iso-3betting are somewhat rare) and could probably raise and/or 3! more from the blinds. Anyone see anything else or disagree with my thoughts here?
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Old 11-15-2010, 11:03 AM   #64
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Leroy:

loosen up from the BTN and CO...i have no idea what is standard but my stats are
BTN 41/36
CO 33/28

you only 3bet ~2%...that is really low. ~8 sounds about right.

punish limpers, isolate loose openers from UTG.

your c-bet is definitely a bit high, thinking players probably tend to c/r you light.

if "fold 3bet" means how often you fold when facing a 3bet, then >60% is too high...40-50% is better.
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Old 11-15-2010, 11:07 AM   #65
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Lets post mine aswell =]

Things I noticed myself are the high VPIP/PFR in UTG, think that should be a bit lower? High VPIP in SB is because my games are very limpy and I can limp a lot behind in SB with decent enough hands.
I honestly don't have a clue why my flop cbet% is ~12% higher in CO than in EP/MP/BTN. In SB/BB I probably cbet more because I'm always OOP, and I'm much more inclined to cbet OOP than IP.
W$WSF is a bit lowish I think but that's fine IMO because I play a lot of multiway pots.
River agg% is low I think and I probably should be a tad more aggro there.



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Old 11-15-2010, 11:10 AM   #66
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Sappie:

looks good, tighten up from SB. you are really aggressive from EP, maybe you should ease up a little bit there.
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Old 11-15-2010, 11:13 AM   #67
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if "fold 3bet" means how often you fold when facing a 3bet, then >60% is too high...40-50% is better.
I remember this being an issue from the last time I posted stats and never looked into it. My thinking is that it includes times where it goes raise/3! in front of me and I fold my rando trash hand OTB or whatever.

Also, please to not be forgetting commentary for Duff if there is any.
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Old 11-15-2010, 11:25 AM   #68
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@logieuk: You're too tight overall imo, playing tight OOP won't hurt but you're really cutting your winrate by playing so tight in late position. Also you should find spots to 3bet more, especially IP (and probably with 100bb+ stacks).
Not sure what your overall turn cbet% is but I think you should barrel a bit more, especially when you pick up some extra equity. What I noticed is that by betting boards like 68KQ you get a lot of folds when you bet the turn. Giving up is fine when at dry boards though.
In your lower pic your flop cbet% seems high and in your upper it seems low lol, so not sure what to make of that. I think in general cbetting about 50-65% is good.
I think your agg% on all streets can be a bit higher. Afaik ~30% is fine on flop/turn. River idunno and a leak of mine aswell is being not aggro enough on the river. Obviously if you cbet some more than your agg% goes up aswell.

Please others correct me if I gave bad advice because I'm not that familiar with PLO stats
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Old 11-15-2010, 11:40 AM   #69
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Duff:
I'd work on my game more before moving up, if I were you. But who knows, maybe you have just been running bad. Hard to say. You're the only one who can answer the question whether you are ready to move up or not. Your stats say that you should probably work a bit on your game.

-Loosen up from BTN and CO a lot...you seem to be too tight.
-Maybe you could also 3bet a bit more...learn to isolate weaker players and/or loose openers IP.
-You might be more aggressive post flop and pick some pots by being more aggressive (your red line goes down a bit too much, in my opinion)
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Old 11-15-2010, 11:59 AM   #70
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leroy: ya 80% c-bet is a bit high. it's one the harder habits to break though, imo.

one thing you can easily work on is playing less hands from SB. just work on streamlining your hands into the strongest parts of your range in the SB and you'll be ok.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:31 PM   #71
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Duff:
I'd work on my game more before moving up, if I were you. But who knows, maybe you have just been running bad. Hard to say. You're the only one who can answer the question whether you are ready to move up or not. Your stats say that you should probably work a bit on your game.

-Loosen up from BTN and CO a lot...you seem to be too tight.
-Maybe you could also 3bet a bit more...learn to isolate weaker players and/or loose openers IP.
-You might be more aggressive post flop and pick some pots by being more aggressive (your red line goes down a bit too much, in my opinion)
Thanks Napsus!

I'm not moving up yet, just thinking about taking some shots. When I include all my PLO50 hands (not just 5-6 Handed) my win rate is pretty good, small sample though, so probably just running hot.

3 bet more, noted. Vs a 30/20/8 Reg opening in MP, which hand are you 3! KK87, or QJ98, or both? Blinds are tight...

I am conscious of the redline, and it has "Flattened out" the last 3500H
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:42 PM   #72
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Thanks Napsus!

I'm not moving up yet, just thinking about taking some shots. When I include all my PLO50 hands (not just 5-6 Handed) my win rate is pretty good, small sample though, so probably just running hot.

3 bet more, noted. Vs a 30/20/8 Reg opening in MP, which hand are you 3! KK87, or QJ98, or both? Blinds are tight...

I am conscious of the redline, and it has "Flattened out" the last 3500H
please note that i am in the same situation as you, a slightly winning player at plo50 so my advice might not always be the most relevant...

i personally prefer to 3bet QJ98 if i have to choose from the two hands given, plays so much better against a 4bet. i almost only 3bet kings when they are ds.
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Old 11-17-2010, 07:09 PM   #73
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Can someone look at my stats and help me out find some leaks?



All hands at 5max PLO 50.
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Old 11-18-2010, 09:29 AM   #74
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:04 AM   #75
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You are playing quite loose overall. I guess its ok as long as you are confortable with it and you are winning.
You should tighten up from SB. You are losing more from SB than BB.

Also 3bet more from buton than from CO. BTN its a nice position to 3bet imo.
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