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Old 04-04-2012, 11:52 PM   #586
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Mostly PL$25 (80%) and PL$50...all 6m

Any opinions on turn and river stats? I feel I may play them a bit weak in spots but not sure how to decipher some of these stats.

Anything else glaring? Thanks.

You should be a little more agressive ott and otr and your 3bet and 4bet is way too low.
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Old 04-06-2012, 06:31 PM   #587
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My stats for the last month, all plo5 6m.
I'm still noobish at interpreting stats but I think I'm doing ok, can anyone spot anything?
Also is there a way to get donk bet by street stat? I think mine is waaay too high, it's at 30% but I dunno if that's just variance like me hitting river & big stuff on the flop or me just donking around!



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Old 04-07-2012, 01:18 AM   #588
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My stats for the last month, all plo5 6m.
I'm still noobish at interpreting stats but I think I'm doing ok, can anyone spot anything?
Also is there a way to get donk bet by street stat? I think mine is waaay too high, it's at 30% but I dunno if that's just variance like me hitting river & big stuff on the flop or me just donking around!



Thanks!
Can't argue with 15bb/100. Great job. You are killing it from the button, almost 1bb/hand.

Never played at Plo5 so don't know if your success is standard, but your stats look like what you have to do, which is to play good starting hands and value bet the **** out of them when you have a good hand at the river.

As you move up, you will probably need to open up a little, bluff more often and generally mix up what you are doing some.

For now, keep on doing what you're doing.
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:07 AM   #589
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Can't argue with 15bb/100. Great job. You are killing it from the button, almost 1bb/hand.

Never played at Plo5 so don't know if your success is standard, but your stats look like what you have to do, which is to play good starting hands and value bet the **** out of them when you have a good hand at the river.

As you move up, you will probably need to open up a little, bluff more often and generally mix up what you are doing some.

For now, keep on doing what you're doing.
Thanks man, that means a lot!
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:35 AM   #590
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Looks great Envoy.

I do think, as I mentioned in the quick checkup thread, your 3bet from SB might be a little too high though. It's the same % as your overall 3bet, which is definitely too high IMO.

If it's useful, I'm 21/15 with 7.6% 3bet. From SB I have 3.2% 3bet. That's about half of my overall. Meh. Don't know if this is more okay at PLO5, but as I mentioned there are probably more multi-way pots at PLO5 than PLO20 and PLO50, so it's probably not a good idea. But I'm not saying my stats = correct obviously.

FWIW from the BB I have 6.3% 3bet. But that's only because I like 3betting from BB an extremely wide range when it's blind vs blind and the SB raises me.

Other than that looks great though. Congrats. Do you play on Stars? If you played this on iPoker where I play, with the huge rakeback, you should surely have enough of a BR to move up by now.
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Old 04-07-2012, 07:42 AM   #591
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And donk bet per street stat for HEM1 is stupid. It shows up on your HUD but you can't choose to display it in Reports. Absolutely ridiculous.

What you got to do is to enable donk bet for HUD, then enable HUD for hero, and while playing, look out for it.
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Old 04-09-2012, 01:18 AM   #592
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Re: **The Official SSPLO Stats Thread**

Just finished my first 10k of 25PLO, haven't played the game in about 2 years, so I'm a bit clueless at the moment.

General stats:


Positional stats:


I have been running over EV, so as of now I don't think I'm a winning player, obviously I want to change that, so if someone identifies some obvious leaks, please let me know

I think I need to play more tight out of position, and especially in the blinds, and maybe 3bet less often out of position.


EDIT: I'm having some serious problems posting pictures, but at least they're clickable now.

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Old 04-09-2012, 02:32 AM   #593
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Your overall stats look okay.

But position wise it looks like you need to play much looser and more aggressive at late position, and fold more from SB and BB. Probably a lot of preflop hands you think is worth calling a raise from the blinds is actually a fold. And a lot of hands you think is worth raising a multi-way limped pot is actually a SB complete or BB check.

Your PFR especially is for sure too high from the blinds. It looks like a lot of times you are raising hands out of position against limpers, when in fact, very, very few PLO hands are worth raising in such a situation (all except premium double suited stuff and hands that flop extremely well). In fact, IMO it's even worse to raise too loosely from the blinds against limpers than to 3bet squeeze too loosely from the blinds against a raiser and one or two callers. Reason is because the stack-to-pot ratio postflop is even worse for you, resulting in more "deep-stacked" situations out of position which is extremely difficult to play in this game. (3bet squeezing bad hands from the blinds is a huge leak too, but at least you often just have 1 pot sized bet left)

You should probably lower your SB and BB stats to something like 18/8, and absolutely loosen up your BTN to something like 34/25/15, keeping roughly the same overall stats.

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Old 04-10-2012, 10:02 AM   #594
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You should be a little more agressive ott and otr and your 3bet and 4bet is way too low.
How do I quantify/analyze turn and river aggression relative to what I have in my stats? Also what is a more optimal 3/4b range for someone playing laggy like this?
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Old 04-12-2012, 08:09 PM   #595
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I need some comment on my stats. What's the typical winrate at BB on nano stakes? has anyone had a positive winrate at BB? my SB is at -40BB/100. Which is almost as good as if i did not play any SB at all. damn. What about agression on F/T/R?

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Old 04-12-2012, 08:44 PM   #596
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I need some comment on my stats. What's the typical winrate at BB on nano stakes? has anyone had a positive winrate at BB? my SB is at -40BB/100. Which is almost as good as if i did not play any SB at all. damn. What about agression on F/T/R?

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Your vpip/pfr differential is too high. Something like 26/21 or so would be better. Also, sb is too loose. Think you can open up from the button.

WTSD% is low but that looks like a function of your aggression on the ftr. You are winning a lot of pots by other players folding. Nothing wrong with that.

Not sure if you are, but you may be able to bet thinner for value.
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:02 AM   #597
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Your vpip/pfr differential is too high. Something like 26/21 or so would be better. Also, sb is too loose. Think you can open up from the button.

WTSD% is low but that looks like a function of your aggression on the ftr. You are winning a lot of pots by other players folding. Nothing wrong with that.

Not sure if you are, but you may be able to bet thinner for value.
VPIP/PFR differential means I am calling more rather than raising right?
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:10 AM   #598
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VPIP/PFR differential means I am calling more rather than raising right?
Yes. You should raise more and limp less. And 3bet more in position instead of calling (this depends on a lot of other things though).
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:11 AM   #599
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Just finished my first 10k of 25PLO, haven't played the game in about 2 years, so I'm a bit clueless at the moment.

General stats:


Positional stats:


I have been running over EV, so as of now I don't think I'm a winning player, obviously I want to change that, so if someone identifies some obvious leaks, please let me know

I think I need to play more tight out of position, and especially in the blinds, and maybe 3bet less often out of position.


EDIT: I'm having some serious problems posting pictures, but at least they're clickable now.
I don't think your SB play is bad. You are loose but you are also winning 40BB/100. If you folded all your SB's it would have been -50BB/10 and getting it down to -11 is good. Maybe you can improve on your BB game however.

Do you mind posting a "leak buster position" stats in HM2? I want to see a breakdown of you you play f/t/r like cbet, check raise, aggression factor, agg % etc.. thanks man!
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Old 04-13-2012, 05:13 AM   #600
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Yes. You should raise more and limp less. And 3bet more in position instead of calling (this depends on a lot of other things though).
ofentimes i tend to call and wait to hit flop with 3-4 players. I gave up the concept of 3 betting since either all players will call you or someone decides to be call-ish postflop and it makes me tilt.
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