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11-03-2010 , 04:42 PM
didnt play PLO for a while my sessions stats (all PLO50 5max):



How do you like it?
How do you view me as a NIT, TAG, LAG ?
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11-03-2010 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SirGaribaldi
hey i dont wanna steal his minutes of fame, so feel free to ignore my stats.
im switching apartments so i cant post screens the next days and i only post here to requote my stats once the discussion of bioods1 stats is done, hope thats not a problem ty.
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i made filter to players equal to 6 thats why i dont have a decent sample yet cause i play a lot of shorthanded games.
if you tell me ur bb/100 is actually 50bb i might become sad
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11-04-2010 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by biood1
struggling at the moment; about 80% plo50, 20% plo25
what do you think about the stats ? prbably to high VPIP from SB, what about the 3-bet % from BTN / CO ?
Meh. Actually check ur fold SB to steal If its somewhere around 80% dont change anything IF your winrate from the SB doesnt drop as loosing 9bb/100 is really good. So play more hands and see where the SB winrate moves, if it drops start completing alot less as I have a hard time believing you have that many goods spots to complete.

Might be a bit of a samplesize question but your flop cbet doesnt really add up that good, maybe check if your missing cbet spots in early posititions. Also ur barreling turn _alot_ and checking ur WWSF I dont think thats working for you that good. So cbet weaker holdings less and just give up (might me samplesize again)

3b holyshit, blinds seems ok/whatever could be more but I dont think thats a big problem whereas ur CO/BTN 3b is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay in the woods here. You can prolly get away with 3betting alot, maybe even upto 20ish%, when ur in the BTN vs and very loose CO opener but you shouldnt ever have this high numbers in 6max, ur surely burning money here. If you want to aim for numbers think 10-15% max. IF you think you are profiting from these 3bets then by all means keep on keeping on.
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11-04-2010 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SirGaribaldi
hey i dont wanna steal his minutes of fame, so feel free to ignore my stats.
im switching apartments so i cant post screens the next days and i only post here to requote my stats once the discussion of bioods1 stats is done, hope thats not a problem ty.
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i made filter to players equal to 6 thats why i dont have a decent sample yet cause i play a lot of shorthanded games.
You play way way too loose OOP, even in deep games and with a superior postflop edge against usual regs this is pretty bad imo. PLO is all about position and i don't think there is anyway you can profitably play bet. 40-60% of hands from blinds and early position. Your BTN and CO vpip/pfr seem fine, but even they could be higher. Cbet% seems quite low too. Relatively small sample but still.
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11-05-2010 , 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Cr@ckers717
You play way way too loose OOP, even in deep games and with a superior postflop edge against usual regs this is pretty bad imo. PLO is all about position and i don't think there is anyway you can profitably play bet. 40-60% of hands from blinds and early position. Your BTN and CO vpip/pfr seem fine, but even they could be higher. Cbet% seems quite low too. Relatively small sample but still.
Yeah I'll add +1 to this.

This comes with a disclaimer that I do not play these games and dont really know what you should be doing, ok that said: It looks to me that your are a loose-passive fish, playing alot of hands and just calling. (take this with a grain of salt)

What is you Fold sb/bb to steal? In 100bb 6max these should be in the 75-85 range, I'm guessing you can play a tad more deep but not significantly more.

Agg and AggFreq are really low, even though your winrate seems to suggest your are infact having the better of it just cant help myself to think ur riding a heater. If the players at ur 250bb tables are that aggro then sure, call, but otherwise I'd start putting in more pressure, and as always in Omaha, it's easier to start doing this from position.

When you start being a bit more aggro and shave off some hands from the blinds ur WWSF will come up soaring and hopefully your winrate will level itself out at 45bb/100 ()
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11-06-2010 , 12:27 AM

Here are some of my stats. I'll also try to post more.
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11-06-2010 , 06:49 PM
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11-07-2010 , 07:42 AM
Just started at 10plo rush with terrible results. First 6k hands or so i played 24/18, my non sd winnings were really bad so the next 4k hands i played 16/10 with even worse results.

Spewed a few buyins with bluffing a-blocker on flush board vs guys who don't like to fold straights on flush boards and stuff like that.

Anyway, I think my biggest leak is utg/mp, I call a lot vs btn opens or when pot is multi way. What sort of range should I be calling there?



Would really appreciate if you guys could give me any tips
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11-07-2010 , 08:54 AM
I'm not surprised you're getting massacred in non-sd pots Tom, you're playing too tight and nitty. Your vpip should be around 15-18 from utg and at least 40 on the button. Also you should 3bet much more frequently, at least 5% and ideally around 10.
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11-07-2010 , 09:50 AM
Oke thx, so instead of getting tighter to bring my non sd winnings back up I should play alot looser? So by opening and 3betting more you take more pots because you got initiative right?
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11-13-2010 , 08:06 PM
My most recent 11K hands. Anything Jumping out I should improve before taking shots @ PLO100?



Any other stats you'd like to see?
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11-15-2010 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Duff86
My most recent 11K hands. Anything Jumping out I should improve before taking shots @ PLO100?
Personally, I'd like a higher Winrate prior to moving up, but ymmv. Maybe 2-3BB/100 (or ~6bb/100). 3 BI in 11k hands isn't really that much afaik.

Also, I'll piggyback on your stats with mine because they're fairly similar...





Edit: I'm fairly confident I c-bet the flop ~10% too much. I think I could also 3! more in LP (although the games I play in are so limpy that iso-raising or iso-3betting are somewhat rare) and could probably raise and/or 3! more from the blinds. Anyone see anything else or disagree with my thoughts here?
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11-15-2010 , 12:03 PM
Leroy:

loosen up from the BTN and CO...i have no idea what is standard but my stats are
BTN 41/36
CO 33/28

you only 3bet ~2%...that is really low. ~8 sounds about right.

punish limpers, isolate loose openers from UTG.

your c-bet is definitely a bit high, thinking players probably tend to c/r you light.

if "fold 3bet" means how often you fold when facing a 3bet, then >60% is too high...40-50% is better.
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11-15-2010 , 12:07 PM
Lets post mine aswell =]

Things I noticed myself are the high VPIP/PFR in UTG, think that should be a bit lower? High VPIP in SB is because my games are very limpy and I can limp a lot behind in SB with decent enough hands.
I honestly don't have a clue why my flop cbet% is ~12% higher in CO than in EP/MP/BTN. In SB/BB I probably cbet more because I'm always OOP, and I'm much more inclined to cbet OOP than IP.
W$WSF is a bit lowish I think but that's fine IMO because I play a lot of multiway pots.
River agg% is low I think and I probably should be a tad more aggro there.



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11-15-2010 , 12:10 PM
Sappie:

looks good, tighten up from SB. you are really aggressive from EP, maybe you should ease up a little bit there.
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11-15-2010 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by napsus
if "fold 3bet" means how often you fold when facing a 3bet, then >60% is too high...40-50% is better.
I remember this being an issue from the last time I posted stats and never looked into it. My thinking is that it includes times where it goes raise/3! in front of me and I fold my rando trash hand OTB or whatever.

Also, please to not be forgetting commentary for Duff if there is any.
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11-15-2010 , 12:25 PM
@logieuk: You're too tight overall imo, playing tight OOP won't hurt but you're really cutting your winrate by playing so tight in late position. Also you should find spots to 3bet more, especially IP (and probably with 100bb+ stacks).
Not sure what your overall turn cbet% is but I think you should barrel a bit more, especially when you pick up some extra equity. What I noticed is that by betting boards like 68KQ you get a lot of folds when you bet the turn. Giving up is fine when at dry boards though.
In your lower pic your flop cbet% seems high and in your upper it seems low lol, so not sure what to make of that. I think in general cbetting about 50-65% is good.
I think your agg% on all streets can be a bit higher. Afaik ~30% is fine on flop/turn. River idunno and a leak of mine aswell is being not aggro enough on the river. Obviously if you cbet some more than your agg% goes up aswell.

Please others correct me if I gave bad advice because I'm not that familiar with PLO stats
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11-15-2010 , 12:40 PM
Duff:
I'd work on my game more before moving up, if I were you. But who knows, maybe you have just been running bad. Hard to say. You're the only one who can answer the question whether you are ready to move up or not. Your stats say that you should probably work a bit on your game.

-Loosen up from BTN and CO a lot...you seem to be too tight.
-Maybe you could also 3bet a bit more...learn to isolate weaker players and/or loose openers IP.
-You might be more aggressive post flop and pick some pots by being more aggressive (your red line goes down a bit too much, in my opinion)
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11-15-2010 , 12:59 PM
leroy: ya 80% c-bet is a bit high. it's one the harder habits to break though, imo.

one thing you can easily work on is playing less hands from SB. just work on streamlining your hands into the strongest parts of your range in the SB and you'll be ok.
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11-15-2010 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by napsus
Duff:
I'd work on my game more before moving up, if I were you. But who knows, maybe you have just been running bad. Hard to say. You're the only one who can answer the question whether you are ready to move up or not. Your stats say that you should probably work a bit on your game.

-Loosen up from BTN and CO a lot...you seem to be too tight.
-Maybe you could also 3bet a bit more...learn to isolate weaker players and/or loose openers IP.
-You might be more aggressive post flop and pick some pots by being more aggressive (your red line goes down a bit too much, in my opinion)
Thanks Napsus!

I'm not moving up yet, just thinking about taking some shots. When I include all my PLO50 hands (not just 5-6 Handed) my win rate is pretty good, small sample though, so probably just running hot.

3 bet more, noted. Vs a 30/20/8 Reg opening in MP, which hand are you 3! KK87, or QJ98, or both? Blinds are tight...

I am conscious of the redline, and it has "Flattened out" the last 3500H
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11-15-2010 , 02:42 PM
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Thanks Napsus!

I'm not moving up yet, just thinking about taking some shots. When I include all my PLO50 hands (not just 5-6 Handed) my win rate is pretty good, small sample though, so probably just running hot.

3 bet more, noted. Vs a 30/20/8 Reg opening in MP, which hand are you 3! KK87, or QJ98, or both? Blinds are tight...

I am conscious of the redline, and it has "Flattened out" the last 3500H
please note that i am in the same situation as you, a slightly winning player at plo50 so my advice might not always be the most relevant...

i personally prefer to 3bet QJ98 if i have to choose from the two hands given, plays so much better against a 4bet. i almost only 3bet kings when they are ds.
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11-17-2010 , 08:09 PM
Can someone look at my stats and help me out find some leaks?



All hands at 5max PLO 50.
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11-18-2010 , 10:29 AM
someone?
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11-18-2010 , 12:04 PM
You are playing quite loose overall. I guess its ok as long as you are confortable with it and you are winning.
You should tighten up from SB. You are losing more from SB than BB.

Also 3bet more from buton than from CO. BTN its a nice position to 3bet imo.
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