**The Official SSPLO Stats Thread**

[Adzy85]

Originally Posted by jacktensuited13

By jsts13 at 2010-09-25

Smallish sample of one month running bad and one month running well. Feel free to tear my stats apart.

lol @ attempt to hide SN

[pulsarius]

hello

here are my stats for the last 2,5 months.
i know my 3bet is way to low so i would like some advice when to 3bet more.
i feel only comfortable 3betting from btn and from BB against SB.
also i 3bet only about 30% of my aces.

my sb vpip is way to high i dont know exactly why...
from button i like to open wider than top 20% if no1 has raised befor me.
i prefer to just fold marginal hands against early position or CO pfr

other comments are ofc welcome

[pulsarius]

Originally Posted by Hookt

VPIP question: How tight is too tight and how loose is too loose?

i would say below 20 is too tight and above 40 is too loose , but it
totally depends on how good your postflop play is.
there are also some players whit a vpip of only 17-18 whit a decent winrate
or whit a vpip as high as 55-60 whit positive winnings.

[Foxtorpedo]

Originally Posted by synopsys

I think that your VPIP on SB is way big. Shouldn't it be somewhere around 10%?

Actually I think that my call PF bet is around that number but I complete a _lot_ of hands pre in SB /w some loose co/btn limp. Almost all suited aces with even the slightest connectivity and ATT*+

Im not sure if thats a big leak or not, I'm just thinking that if they let me complete in SB with hands like that then it's worth it to do it. The postflop situations I look for are something like passive BB+ CO/BTN who lets me play my bad draws passively and gives value on good cards. It might be that this worked better at PLO25 where I started doing this and actually shows loss at PLO50, who knows...

Edit: F BB to steal is 86,9 so BB VPIP (not limping) is prolly around 10-12% or so. Just noticed SB steal% is 73.6 which might be a biiiiiiiitt on the high side

[Foxtorpedo]

Originally Posted by pulsarius

hello

I’d say you need (more) positional awareness. It looks like you are opening up some UTG -> BTN but I’m sure you could get away with opening wider at CO/BTN. If you feel uncomfortable playing OOP you could try to fold to steal abit more often. If you want a percentage to look at I’d aim at like 85 or so, maybe low 80s, as that can’t really be that bad from SB, and maybe 76-77 or something similar from BB. This is ofc opponent-dependant.

Seeing your PF range as really tight from CO/BTN I think you should cbet more (and obv barrel suitable turns). With these stats your WWSF% shouldn’t be lower than 42-44% ever, dunno what it is.

I’d try to use your current stealing range as your open range (if you have limpers before you) and just bomb unopened BTN with As*s** and try if you feel out of place or not.

3bet: Cant say that much about this as I'm not 3betting that much but you could start by 3betting good A***, KK**, premium QQ** etc. If you want to start slow you could try 3betting AKTJ, QTJ9 etc from the blinds. These hit flops fairly often and are easy to play (imo) post. You can start 3betting the good KK and QQ combinations when you have position post and go from there.

[pulsarius]

Originally Posted by Foxtorpedo

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Seeing your PF range as really tight from CO/BTN I think you should cbet more (and obv barrel suitable turns). With these stats your WWSF% shouldn’t be lower than 42-44% ever, dunno what it is.

my WWSF% is only 35%. seems to low i guess.

[Foxtorpedo]

Originally Posted by pulsarius

my WWSF% is only 35%. seems to low i guess.

Hmm that really seems to be on the lowish side. I'd suggest you keep your game as it is overall and start by testing things out 1-by-1. I'd start with the cbetting part I think as that is an easy thing to just do more, and try how that affects your WWSF/game overall.

[synopsys]

Originally Posted by Foxtorpedo

Actually I think that my call PF bet is around that number but I complete a _lot_ of hands pre in SB /w some loose co/btn limp. Almost all suited aces with even the slightest connectivity and ATT*+

Im not sure if thats a big leak or not, I'm just thinking that if they let me complete in SB with hands like that then it's worth it to do it. The postflop situations I look for are something like passive BB+ CO/BTN who lets me play my bad draws passively and gives value on good cards. It might be that this worked better at PLO25 where I started doing this and actually shows loss at PLO50, who knows...

Edit: F BB to steal is 86,9 so BB VPIP (not limping) is prolly around 10-12% or so. Just noticed SB steal% is 73.6 which might be a biiiiiiiitt on the high side

I'm also guilty with a high VPIP on SB and somehow I find the reasons are the same. Passive CO/BTN and odds are really good. But when I look at my stats I'm still leaking a lot of money in this position. Maybe im just too donk post flop. quick question though, did you start plo at 0.01/0.02?

[Foxtorpedo]

Originally Posted by synopsys

quick question though, did you start plo at 0.01/0.02?

Hmmm I think it was 0.02/0.04 or smth like that. Bodog/PP/Ongame at the time if I recall

[A789ds]

Could I get some feedback/critique on these stats please.




feel free to be honest

[SeaKing]

Playing 42% of your hands from the SB could be the reason you are losing more from that position than the BB.

[Foxtorpedo]

Whatever ur doing it seems to be working but openlimping like hell can't be a good thing. Also it seems like you SD a lot but your WSD seems to be ok so dunno

[SGrifon]

My 25plo stats for this month >_<
Any comments plz...

[Foxtorpedo]

Open up UTG/UTG+1
Test with 3betting more IP (BTN/CO)
Your aggression seem abit on the high side. Try calling abit more (I think this is why your WTSD is so low)

[SGrifon]

Yes, it's obvious... Maybe something else?