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Old 09-22-2010, 04:26 PM   #16
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Re: **The Official SSPLO Stats Thread**

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Imo a high vpip is necessary for the shallow games.
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Looks decent, maybe slightly too loose and passive. Your 3bet numbers are good, though you may be 3betting a bit too much for shallow (I think between 8-10% is optimal for those games). The big glaring thing in your stats though, is that with your vpip so high, your att to steal should be way, way higher. It seems like maybe you are not positionally aware.
i'd say he's laggy with low steal, def not passive
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Old 09-22-2010, 07:01 PM   #17
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... nvm
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Old 09-23-2010, 03:46 PM   #18
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I'd welcome comments on my stats...all hands PLO50
too loose from the blinds?
not aggressive enough overall?
too high c-bet flop/turn?
3bet more?

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Old 09-23-2010, 04:50 PM   #19
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3 bet a little more, and def tighten up from the blinds
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Old 09-24-2010, 09:23 AM   #20
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giddy up!
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Old 09-25-2010, 11:37 AM   #21
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also you seem to be playing way too many hands from the blinds, SB in particular. yes, button raising ranges will be wider so your hands will fare better against aggregate button ranges, but it's not really worth defending. you absolutely gotta play tight out of the blinds.
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as far as your SB stats: it's not really the vpip i was looking at, though it is kinda high. it's the fold SB to steal stats. you just can't be playing 35% of your hands out of the worst position to a raise. cold-calling already has it's disadvantages, even in position, but oop in PLO? it's a massive leak. it's not often about implied odds in this game. it's about one guy having a hand and the other guy trying to hit his draw. implied odds matter a lot less because previously made hands often have to fold when obvious draws complete. and because that cat and mouse game is a big part of PLO, you need to work on not being the mouse (being oop) as much as possible.
So I've been trying to work on this, but haven't really made much progress apparently. Can someone give me some approximate BB/SB VPIP/PFR #s and FBBTS/FSBTS #s?
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:01 PM   #22
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thoughts on vpip and pfr and 3bet at these stakes?
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:08 PM   #23
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Re: **The Official SSPLO Stats Thread**

My stats seem to indicate that I play too many hands in the SB (~25%) though I think that's because I complete a lot with random mid/high pairs and suited aces, and I frequently get to do this due to the passive nature of the games. I think that this is generally an ok thing to do, and certainly not a huge leak if it is one.

My VPIP in the BB is closer to 15%, which is probably around the same for my VPIP in the SB in raised pots.

Actually, I'm still not that good with HEM. Does anyone know how to do a filter to find out my VPIP in single raise pots in the blinds?
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:09 PM   #24
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Re: **The Official SSPLO Stats Thread**

rafifer, post the breakdown by position instead. more info that way.
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:36 PM   #25
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By jsts13 at 2010-09-25

Smallish sample of one month running bad and one month running well. Feel free to tear my stats apart.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:15 PM   #26
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Re: **The Official SSPLO Stats Thread**

I'm -30BB SB at 26/13 -7k
-31BB BB at 18/6 -7k
at Stars

and
-7BB SB 31/15 -1k
-20BB BB 19/8 -2.7k
at Tilt

So pretty similar stats, both over 70k hand samples, the tilt one must be running hot, but how many BB are people losing here as standardish?
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Old 10-03-2010, 03:38 PM   #27
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Fold vs Steal SB 87% BB 78%
Call vs Steal SB 11% BB 16%

High SB VPIP mostly cuz of big complete range, BTM of range mostly TT**ss, As*s** with little connectivity

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Old 10-14-2010, 01:43 PM   #28
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Does anyone have any idea on what a decent check-fold turn % should be? I feel like this is a huge leak of mine and the reason I lose so much in non-show down pots. At plo 10, the last few thousand hands I have a 71% check fold turn. Is this too high? It feels like I cbet and then realize the plo10ers aren't going to continue to fold any piece of the board, so I end up taking the weak tight approach and check fold the turn.

also, regarding huds. What stats are a must for your huds? The current ones I have are:
(VPIP) (PFR Steal) (3-Bet) (Agg factor)
(Flop Cbet) (Fold to Flop CB) (Donk bet flop)
(Turn CB) (Fold to turn CB)
(Went to Showdown) (Won $ at Showdown)
(Fold vs. river bet) (Hands)
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:09 PM   #29
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I think that your VPIP on SB is way big. Shouldn't it be somewhere around 10%?
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:23 PM   #30
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VPIP question: How tight is too tight and how loose is too loose?
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