***Official SSPLO Beginners Thread - New to PLO? Try this for quick questions/tips/chat***

[hisboyelroy]

do you have any vids of you playing, sweat vids

[GoGetaRealJob]

Yes, but for my coach's eyes only

[coon74]

You could be a coach yourself, and to draw future students' and horses' attention you need some free vids

If you don't want your SN to get disclosed, I'm pretty sure there are powerful tools that can shield (black out) SNs, hand numbers, cents in stack sizes etc., e.g. DebugMode Wax (freeware).

If you don't want to disclose your playing style, just play in a different style.

Do this kind thing, record videos, just for wellbeing of your bosses if you don't have other reasons.

[VIVEK15]

Im playing SS NLHE and sometimes gambool some at PLO, im pretty clueless to starting hands from each pos.

So a simple starting hand chart would be really good for 6m.

also would like to know when limping is a good idea, in NL its pretty much always considured horrible but at PLO it seams fine, especially from early pos.

Thx

[coon74]

Here you are: GGaRJ's chart, yrmom's chart (I remember neither of them so can't say which one is better ; yrmom's one is suprisingly more conservative). Don't take them as rigid guidelines because PLO is more of a postflop game than NLHE, there are so many PF styles possible at PLO. These charts are designed to prevent people from postflop trouble while they're learning. Pay more attention to postflop, don't think in NLHE ways. People seldom fold to PF 3bets, so be aggro PF with playable hands only.

Limping can be fine with hands that are generally weak but play better multiway (suited aces, setmining KK-QQ), though I'm not a fan of it. It also depends on looseness of your games, nanolimits are much looser and more suited to limping. However, position is much more important than in NLHE so fold more in early positions and VPIP more on the button.

[xander biscuits]

My local casino offers £1/£2 4,5,6 card omaha (dealer's choice) as a cash game.

Can someone either tell me what adjustments you need to make for 5 or 6 card omaha or direct me to a thread/article that can

thank you

[hisboyelroy]

I couldn't man up and fold, im never good here, I believe that river calls are my down fall. I clearly missed the signs, i c/r flop and he calls, prob set and drawing, turn gave me a boat, and stopped thinking and his hand i thought about value city' bet 2/3 and got shoved on, the str8,boat,and flush came in , oh how i wished he had a backdoor flush, and i made a CRYING river call, then he just left(cut and ran) why didnt i just fold pre, i had know need to be in that hand either, which makes it worse.

*should I fold ever raised river w/o stone cold nutters, or is that a leak?

Cake Poker, $0.02/$0.04 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13759392

Hero (UTG+1): $9.13 (228.3 bb)
UTG+2: $2.94 (73.5 bb)
MP1: $5.20 (130 bb)
MP2: $14 (350 bb)
MP3: $12.17 (304.3 bb)
CO: $0.30 (7.5 bb)
BTN: $7.47 (186.8 bb)
SB: $3.96 (99 bb)
BB: $1.14 (28.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 3 3 5 4
Hero calls $0.04, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, MP3 calls $0.04, CO calls $0.04, BTN raises to $0.17, SB calls $0.15, BB folds, Hero calls $0.13, MP2 calls $0.13, MP3 calls $0.13, CO folds

Flop: ($0.93) A 5 4 (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.47, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.35, MP2 calls $0.88

Turn: ($3.63) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks

River: ($3.63) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.29, MP2 raises to $10.50, Hero calls $5.32 and is all-in

Results: $18.85 pot ($1.25 rake)
Final Board: A 5 4 4 8
Hero showed 3 3 5 4 and lost (-$9.13 net)
MP2 showed 4 Q A 7 and won $17.60 ($8.47 net)

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[SlimyF]

Originally Posted by xander biscuits

My local casino offers £1/£2 4,5,6 card omaha (dealer's choice) as a cash game.

Can someone either tell me what adjustments you need to make for 5 or 6 card omaha or direct me to a thread/article that can

thank you

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...omaha-1082826/

Play passive pre and draw to the nuts. Don't push without significant re-draws. Valuebet nuts big. Profit.

Also check www.propokertools.com for math.

[coon74]

^ SlimyF has nailed it.

If you're lazy to google for articles, here you are: http://www.pokerplayer.co.uk/poker-s..._strategy.html

And certainly you can train online for less money on Entraction network (alas the only one that has 5-card PLO). SlimyF plays there (or at least used to) so I'm sure he can give valuable advice.

I suppose the importance of position grows with the number of cards dealt (as with the NLHE->PLO transition), so choose 6-card PLO when you're on the button.

[GaKo]

where is better to play PLO HU? stars with smaller rake (and 30% rb) or iPoker with huge rb? what about player pool?

[coon74]

Try these:
http://www.pokerscout.com/GameFinder.aspx (to assess player pool sizes)
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/38...uests-1157604/ (official HU thread)

[G3NGAR]

I'm trying to learn PLO and kinda new to it just wondering bout these two hands, both are in zoom so dont really have any reads.

Hand 1:

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) ZOOM - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $2.45
SB: $0.74
BB: $2.00
UTG: $1.68
MP: $2.38
Hero (CO): $2.33

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has Q A 3 J

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.07, fold, SB calls $0.06, BB calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.21, 3 players) A 6 K
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.17, SB calls $0.17, fold

Turn: ($0.55, 2 players) 5
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.55, 2 players) Q
SB bets $0.36, fold

SB wins $0.53

I feel like JTxx could take this line and its close since the flush draw missed but not sure if its a fold or not. Should I be barreling the turn?

Hand 2:

PokerStars - $0.02 PL Hi (6 max) ZOOM - Omaha - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $2.44
Hero (SB): $2.45
BB: $9.75
UTG: $6.40
MP: $5.04
CO: $1.14

Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 3 T 9 Q

UTG calls $0.02, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.06, 3 players) T T 2
Hero bets $0.06, fold, UTG calls $0.06

Turn: ($0.18, 2 players) 2
Hero bets $0.14, UTG calls $0.14

River: ($0.46, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.44, Hero calls $0.44

UTG shows 4 5 8 T (Full House, Tens full of Eights) (Pre 48%, Flop 45%, Turn 35%)
Hero mucks 3 T 9 Q (Three of a Kind, Tens) (Pre 52%, Flop 55%, Turn 65%)
UTG wins $1.29

Standard call given the way the board runs out or should I be finding a fold here?

[SlimyF]

I really have no idea how plo2 Zoom plays, but..

1.SB is so short that I would just pot turn.
2.Fold pre. As played wp.

[kilowaro]

I'm looking for spots to incorporate betting flop -> c/r turn lines, but maybe this wasn't the time to do it?
Villain is 47/28 over a small sample with an AF of 2. I have not seen him raise flops light and what stands out is his WTSD of 54% which probably indicates passiveness.

I thought most of his raising range would be trips with low kickers and 3betting the flop would make him fold. And pick off some occasional bluffs if he has any, so c/r turn would net me more money. Is this good logic or should I just be shipping flop or taking a different line?

Hero ($25)
BB ($65.82)
CO ($25.35)
BTN ($25.40)

Dealt to Hero 9 5 A 6

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BB calls $0.50

FLOP ($1.50) 5 2 5

Hero bets $1.14, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.36

TURN ($6.50) 5 2 5 J

Hero checks, BB bets $2.50, Hero raises to $10, BB calls $7.50

RIVER ($26.50) 5 2 5 J K

Hero bets $11.75 (AI), BB calls $11.75

[Salats]

how soft are the small stake PLO games compare to NLHE? Say 100 and myb 200, is it the same 6max games with 1 fish at the table just better edges vs the guy or are there actually a lot of games with 3fish in a 6max game?