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[MILLIONAIRE77]

Originally Posted by tmckendry

2 - Villain is 30/10 with 40 agg freq

Hero raises to $0.35 in CO with AsKdTd4s, BTN calls, BB calls.

Flop ($1.15): Ax 7s 3x

check, hero bets $0.85, btn calls $.85, BB folds.

Turn ($2.85): 8 r

hero check, villain bets $2.00.

Is the turn always a c/f here? c/c? So lost in spots where I'm heads up on the turn with a medium strength hand that can't get calls from worse and will never fold out better. Advice?

If u fire turn here the best hand i think u cld get to fold is 73xx i think 456x is still calling turn and also all sets, a7xx and maybe a3xx. so ur folding out a better hand (73xx) a small amount of the time but most other hands are calling and now uve got a medium sized pot with 1 pair. doesnt look good. i think a c/f is best as even if u are in front against 456x u are oop and ur opponent can just own you. if it goes check check on turn hit 2 pair and hope its good. playing oop rly sucks in plo i think ur basically just trying to 3 bet nice playable rundowns/premium aces get the SPR a bit lower so being oop doesnt suck so much and jam it in with some sort of decent equity or just flat keep the pot small and play hands like jeff hwang suggests like top set+nutfd.
in pos tho im still not sure how loose u shud be playing i think its very loose and agro since most cases ppl are either playing the way stated above(so will fold often) or theyre trying to hang on to pots with weak made hands/draws and can be blown off their hand(so will still fold just later in the hand) if u choose good cards to follow through on the turn and river.

[MILLIONAIRE77]

pretty sure i played this hand so passive i wna puke. i was gna play it aggressively on the turn if it was a safe card but the ten was pretty terrible. on turn i was farily sure ne board pairing card was an out so just flatted after the bet and call. shud i be trying to get this in on flop close to 100% of the time considering the board texture with no flush draw and the biggest wrap + 2 backdoor fds is only 42% vs me.


***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Boss)
€50.00 USD PL Omaha - Saturday, July 14, 04:05:28 ET 2012
Table Table OH 541 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( €41.89 USD ) - VPIP: 29, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: 2.6, Hands: 1142
Seat 2: Player2 ( €59.25 USD ) - VPIP: 44, PFR: 22, 3B: 8, AF: 2.2, Hands: 107
Seat 3: Player3 ( €49.90 USD ) - VPIP: 59, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 2.2, Hands: 41
Seat 4: Hero ( €61.17 USD ) - VPIP: 41, PFR: 28, 3B: 8, AF: 3.9, Hands: 14363
Seat 5: Player5 ( €48.95 USD ) - VPIP: 73, PFR: 38, 3B: 7, AF: 4.0, Hands: 37
Player3 posts small blind [€0.25 USD].
Hero posts big blind [€0.50 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Qs Qh As 6s ]
Player5 raises [€1.00 USD]
Player1 folds
Player2 calls [€1.00 USD]
Player3 calls [€0.75 USD]
Hero calls [€0.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kh, Qd, 6c ]
Player3 checks
Hero checks
Player5 bets [€3.00 USD]
Player2 calls [€3.00 USD]
Player3 folds
Hero calls [€3.00 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
Hero checks
Player5 bets [€6.50 USD]
Player2 calls [€6.50 USD]
Hero calls [€6.50 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
Hero checks
Player5 bets [€16.25 USD]
Player2 folds
Hero folds
Player5 wins €30.90 USD from main pot
Player5 wins €16.25 USD

[coon74]

MILLIONAIRE77, I might have faced you at PLO30, you're Brazilian, aren't you? (Judging by the timestamp in the HH; unlikely Polish due to posting times.)

If so, I respect and fear you . I think you're playing a bit too loose for a beginner to my taste, putting yourself into tough postflop spots. Generally, don't call 3bets with trash and don't stack off light with SPR~2.

With AKQTss, I like to flat too, it's a strong hand but it's better multiway.

In your last hand, I either check/raise/fold the flop (KK is still probable, if UTG shoves JT9 congrats to him; flatting is bad because straightening turns are undesirable) or, as played, herocall the river - that UTG with AF=4 lowered his sizing to halfpot on the turn makes me think that he's not satisfied by his hand, it may be either a thin valuebet or a cheap bluff but I don't believe in KK.

I'd like to hear others' comments on this hand though.

It would be nicer if you found HHs you want to post in .xml files by their number and copypasted them into the 2+2 converter.

[MILLIONAIRE77]

na not brazilian. british living in oz. yeh not sure with the hand above it felt like j9 but only had 37hands on him so had no idea how agro he was.
soz about the hand history im a total noob to this posting stuff. pm ur screen name and ill let u no if ive played u. i play on interpoker n stars a lil bit.

[tmckendry]

What's a typical cbet % in PLO?

I'm in the 55-60% range over 6k hands and I feel like its too much. (It's certainly one of the highest at the table at all times)

Is it a leak to cbet an overpair with a bit of equity (Say donkey gutshot+nut BDFD... or gutshot to the nuts) when 3-4 handed vs an assortment of typical PLO5 villains?

What about heads-up when you have almost no equity. Say for instance your in the CO and raise 8764ss, folds to the BB (41/10 with 30% fold to steal) who calls and the flop comes Ad 9c 3s. cbet flop 60-70%pot and give up? or just check and give up?

[GoGetaRealJob]

At PLO5, c-bet mainly for value, especially multiways

Since ur opponents are generally clueless and won't try and bluff vs a missed c-bet, u should go for delayed c-bets OTT when they check to u twice. Multiways there's no shame in just checking to showdown, bluffing nanoplayers has very little value overall

[tmckendry]

Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob

At PLO5, c-bet mainly for value, especially multiways

Since ur opponents are generally clueless and won't try and bluff vs a missed c-bet, u should go for delayed c-bets OTT when they check to u twice. Multiways there's no shame in just checking to showdown, bluffing nanoplayers has very little value overall

Thx gogetarealjob, you've been very helpful responding to my questions. Expect more

[GoGetaRealJob]

Always happy to help

My activity fluctuates quite a bit these days with the new baby, everyone is free to pester me with a PM if my contribution is wanted where I'm yet to give it.

[Salats]

Kd8dQc9c an open UTG PLO2 6max?

[Jabonator]

Fine imo.

[GoGetaRealJob]

yea, plays ok... might actually limp myself, raising bloats the pot when ur likely to be multiways, OOP and not hitting dominating draws that often. KQT9ds I'm raising as the connectivity is much better already

[Salats]

Ok, got a hand for you to review, 300deep 6max PLO2 zoom hand, don't have PT for omaha yet so just gonna write it myself

so I open UTG with Ah6h7s9s CO(200bb) 3bets, BB(300bb) calls I call

flop is 8h9sAd i check CO cbets 1/3 pot BB calls I call, turn 5h I check CO checks BB makes it 1.00 I raise to like 3.50 CO folds BB calls, turn 7s. Now we have 100bb left and a 8.4$ pot or smth and he ships it in, is this a snap call? :P He has to somehow have T6 here to beat me and I don't think he has a lot of those but then again it's 100bbs to call..

[GoGetaRealJob]

unless u made a mistake, I see u sitting with nuts + NFD + top 2, T6 doesn't make a str8

pot flop when it gets back to u

[coon74]

Salats had top 2 and two BDFD otf and I agree he shoulda c/r'ed otf and potted ott. JT got there otr and matches all the previous action pretty well (T6 got there too but it's far less probable), so folding is not a big mistake imho.

[DaRealClodo]

SB is 19/0/0 for vpip/pfr/3bet over 250 hands

thoughts? Questions?


Merge Network $0.02/$0.04 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1829115
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: $2.84
UTG: $4.68
MP: $6.44
CO: $4.94
Hero (BTN): $7.53
SB: $2.38

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BTN with 2 A 2 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.14, SB calls $0.12, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.42) 2 9 K (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.31, SB calls $0.31, BB folds

Turn: ($1.04) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.78, SB calls $0.78

River: ($2.60) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.30, SB calls $1.15 all in