***Official SSPLO Beginners Thread - New to PLO? Try this for quick questions/tips/chat***

[ddp1985]

What sort of tables do you stay on for example if i have 2 fish on my left who are calling every hand and never folding to cbets we want to be leaving these tables right?
Also if im on a table which is very passive where theres lots of limping and just calling making it 4 way pots do you stay on these? They seem unprofitable to me unless you hit the flop hard i have to check give up alot. Do you just limp in also unless you have a hand of big strength which flops multiway on these types of tables?

[budinho]

Originally Posted by ddp1985

What sort of tables do you stay on for example if i have 2 fish on my left who are calling every hand and never folding to cbets we want to be leaving these tables right?

Not sure if serious...Why would you leave easy money table? Tighten up your range,n don't bluff too often.

[itaba]

for PLO50, best site bluefire or deuces craked?
for HU and 6max?

Ty guys

[nessthabest]

deuces cracked, really good stuff there - check out the videos from dj sensei!

[guimz]

Where can you find good PLO videos for free?

[Jimmay]

Any recommendations for a new PLO player limited experience in poker overall. I have a DC membership. With their videos I find I can follow the videos but that doesn't give me a routine process to follow during the game, or what to work on first in learning the game, so find it hard to get started from their site (same for NLHE videos). Especially for the flop for PLO. They will list all the factors important in determining the play on the flop at length in a theory video, then jump into hand histories or live play and analyse in a way a beginner can't do at the table which is natural for an experienced player.

I want a process where I follow it through on each flop the same step by step while learning to help learn, and don't get that from DC videos unless I missed one on flop play (I think I've seen them all up to the flop).

Any other sites better for this or any books? If its not out there then maybe coaching is most efficient to get started?

[siebenacht]

Originally Posted by ddp1985

What sort of tables do you stay on for example if i have 2 fish on my left who are calling every hand and never folding to cbets we want to be leaving these tables right?
Also if im on a table which is very passive where theres lots of limping and just calling making it 4 way pots do you stay on these? They seem unprofitable to me unless you hit the flop hard i have to check give up alot. Do you just limp in also unless you have a hand of big strength which flops multiway on these types of tables?

Originally Posted by budinho

Not sure if serious...Why would you leave easy money table? Tighten up your range,n don't bluff too often.

You want to have fish generally to your right and tight players to your left.
If the fish on your right don't make up for the stations on your left, i would leave the table. If they make you tighten up your range, they take room to exploit the players on your right, because you can't play that much hands against them. If its micro/small stakes it shouldn't be a problem to find a better table anyway.

[Peterson1865]

Thank you for this helpful forum. I read, but did not post so far.

After a bit less than one year of experience playing NLHE, I have a reasonable bankroll for NLHE $25 (6 max). Recently I felt like trying PLO (6 max), even if just to keep things varied and interesting.

I ordered Jeff Hwang's book (I know it is focused on full-ring, but it seems recommended for starters nevertheless) and found that it has a nice chapter on PLO eight or better. It seems that this game is considerably less swingy than PLO hi. Would it make sense to learn PLO8 first to practise hand reading and drawing (I am aware that it is quite a different game from PLO, but still), extend my bankroll further until I reach 75 buy-ins for PLO $25 (I am conservative and there are no smaller games on Party Poker) and then after a while make the step to PLO? Or is this route a bad idea?

[napsus]

i would read the hwang book and start with plo. the book has very good chapters on big pot play, drawing hands vs made hands etc...it's a good start to begin learning. reading that book + browsing daily through the strat threads will help you a long way.
for example keep your eyes on what kind of hands people open from which position, when do they 3bet, when do they cbet...(talking about the strat threads)...and that you will give you a pretty good overview on the basics of 6max play. aim at playing ~25-20% of your hands and pfr of 18-22% and you're good to go.

[SlimyF]

In my opinion learn plo first and then jump in to plo h/l if you still have interest. I did that like 3 years ago and basicly start crushing it immediately.

Plo h/l players are usually not that good hand readers and they rely to make their nut low, which most of then draw like freaks. It gives better hand readers a big edge on hands where there are no low possibly.

[SonicMan]

Got 2 hands here, any feedback (positive and negative) would be greatly appreciated

http://weaktight.com/4345870

http://weaktight.com/4345876

Thanks in advance

[SlimyF]

1) Pre you can fold, but I wouldn't. Post is wp.
2) Same thing. You can fold pre, but I wouldn't from the button. Post is wp also.

[Peterson1865]

napsus and SlimyF, thank you for your replies. I think I will move to a site (likely Pokerstars) where I can play PLO $10 and follow your advice. (Probably for you playing PLO $10 is a joke, but I really don't like to pay high "tuition fees" when I have less than 75 buy-ins for PLO $25)

The book by Hwang is a really good read so far. Clear and convincing.

For what it's worth, I sent a mail to Party with the suggestion to start offering PLO $10 tables.

[SonicMan]

Originally Posted by SlimyF

1) Pre you can fold, but I wouldn't. Post is wp.
2) Same thing. You can fold pre, but I wouldn't from the button. Post is wp also.

Hand 1: Should I just try to get it in on the flop, instead of having to call on a blank turn?

[SlimyF]

Originally Posted by Peterson1865

(Probably for you playing PLO $10 is a joke

No, it really isn't.

You have to start from somewhere and starting from low stakes is the only right way to do it. Why would you like to play in a game where you have basicly no change to win in a long term? Learn the basics there and move up after you've improved your skills. No need to pay too much for learning.

e: Also having one Grolsch here and there when you play might improve your game. But enjoy responsibly.