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If you have JT94ds is it a good spot to 3bet a nit UTGvHJ? Say someone like 18/15

I don't want to play it multiway and I guess I can play it straight forward in a 3bet pot.

Need more information tbh dude... Because HU in position yes I would be 3 betting this every time (100bb deep) but the decision here is based on other factors. For example the tendencies of your opponents left to act: are they tight and likely to fold loads? Or will they peel a lot and create a crappy spot for you?

If you want a general answer then I'd say no because the 4 hurts and there are two players behind who can make life difficult/awkward.

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04-12-2015 , 06:04 AM

#2902

what_u_on

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hey all, what software will enable me to use a hud on 5 card plo tables?

regards in advance

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04-12-2015 , 08:05 PM

#2903

Rei Ayanami

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Freepokerdb is compatible with a bunch of the more exotic variants.

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04-14-2015 , 09:34 AM

#2904

Salats

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PokerStars - $0.10 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 115.9 BB (VPIP: 44.83, PFR: 37.93, 3Bet Preflop: 41.67, Hands: 29)
SB: 72.3 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BB: 107 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 11.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 62)
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 18)
MP: 126.1 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (CO): 187.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6

fold, MP calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 3.5 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 2 players) 7

MP checks - I wanna cbet, but getting checkraised would kind of suck wouldn't it?

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04-14-2015 , 10:27 AM

#2905

Roy

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Kinda, but how often do you think you're getting checkraise by a hand that limp-calls from MP when you have one of the kings in your hand? Not that often.

Checking isn't bad though - you get to keep a lot of his worse hands in the pot that might fold to a bet but put more money in bad later (like QQxx or A765) and you can continue on basically every turn card.

Yeah, I like checking more than betting here.

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04-25-2015 , 11:06 AM

#2906

Loctus

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No strat in bbv ldo so couldn't figure out where to post this

Saw a zoom hand yesterday (sorry no HH saved) where wruum called a pot sized turn bet on a two-tone broadway board with set of tens, with like 0.3 SPR behind.

First I was mindblown as to why not shovel the rest in if you're calling, not like you're ever folding any river. Then I realized that villain had raised UTG, and the times he has kkxx blockers, wruum gets the rest too on the river, while villain just folds it to a turn jam. Which in the end will mean a couple extra bb's in that spot.

Just the sort of thing I'd literally never see at micros (at least not for that reason lol) or think during a hand myself...

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04-25-2015 , 05:23 PM

#2907

AA Suited

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Originally Posted by Loctus

huh? If I bet pot on the turn, and he shoves for .3 spr more, I'm calling?!
who folds??

yeah, I don't understand the turn call instead of shove for .3 spr more.

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04-25-2015 , 06:12 PM

#2908

Loctus

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You pot the turn on a broadway board with broadway blockers, get jammed for .3spr more, and you call?

So if you have KK34, and pot a AQJ9 board and get shoved on for the rest, you call that off? eh

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04-25-2015 , 07:23 PM

#2909

AA Suited

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Originally Posted by Loctus

You pot the turn on a broadway board with broadway blockers, get jammed for .3spr more, and you call?

So if you have KK34, and pot a AQJ9 board and get shoved on for the rest, you call that off? eh

so on a safe river card, wruum bets his .3 spr and utg will call?

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04-25-2015 , 07:34 PM

#2910

Xptboy

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next level thinking goin on right now ITT

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04-27-2015 , 01:57 PM

#2911

spaceman Bryce

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Do these skype groups use video or just chat? i leek to keep a level of anonymity.
also is it possible to join a study group as an american? I was thinking about studying plo and getting back into poker. What site should i play on for this? bovada? Im going to relearn poker via plo and spaceman bryces ali like return to the ring will shock even my biggest doubters.Of course, first i need to know how to play lol. I have already signed up for RIO

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04-29-2015 , 06:40 AM

#2912

Epiktetos

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I've been in a couple of study groups and we never used video chat, just voice and sometimes screensharing. Since your from the US it would probably be best to join astudy group in a similar timezone.

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04-29-2015 , 10:07 PM

#2913

spaceman Bryce

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Originally Posted by Epiktetos

thanks. I have now realized I have no idea how to use the bovada software and convert hand histories into 2p2 hands.

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04-30-2015 , 08:01 AM

#2914

spaceman Bryce

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For example, I have this(raw) hand history from bovada in the spoilers. I dont know how to make it readable (or the proper etiquette in posting it here)

Spoiler:

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04-30-2015 , 09:06 AM

#2915

Rei Ayanami

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1) Delete the inessential info: all of the hole cards at the top except your own, and the showdown results.
2) Replace suit letters with suit pictures:

.

The tidy version of that HH looks like this:

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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce

Bovada Hand #3050806898 TBL#9563755 OMAHA Pot Limit - 2015-04-28 00:04:23
Seat 1: Small Blind ($4.56 in chips)
Seat 2: Big Blind [ME] ($1.50 in chips)
Seat 3: UTG ($11.33 in chips)
Seat 5: UTG+1 ($6.09 in chips)
Seat 6: Dealer ($9.33 in chips)
Dealer : Set dealer/Bring in spot [6]
Small Blind : Ante/Small Blind $0.02
Big Blind [ME] : Big blind/Bring in $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Big Blind [ME] : Card dealt to a spot [A

]
UTG : Calls $0.05
UTG+1 : Calls $0.05
Dealer : Raises $0.27 to $0.27
Small Blind : Folds
Big Blind [ME] : Raises $0.88 to $0.93
UTG : Calls $0.88
UTG+1 : Folds
Dealer : Raises $3.52 to $3.79
Big Blind [ME] : All-in $0.57
UTG : Folds
Dealer : Return uncalled portion of bet $2.29

This is how ftr suit replacements should look:

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*** FLOP *** [J

]
*** TURN *** [J

] [7

]
*** RIVER *** [J

] [A

]
Dealer : Showdown [A

]
Dealer : Hand result $3.80
Big Blind [ME] : Seat sit out

If you want to show results, use the players' hole cards, not their best five-card combo.

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04-30-2015 , 11:36 AM

#2916

AA Suited

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why did you raise with ak56 rainbow?!

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04-30-2015 , 11:41 AM

#2917

blitzT4M4Y0theGOAT

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Originally Posted by AA Suited

why did you raise with ak56 rainbow?!

+1

It doesn't have enough equity pre flop to stack off with, I'd fold

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04-30-2015 , 03:56 PM

#2918

throwawaykidpoker

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What sites that are US friendly have consistent PLO runnin from 20-100 PLO other than Bovada/Sealswithclubs?

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04-30-2015 , 05:04 PM

#2919

blitzT4M4Y0theGOAT

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Originally Posted by throwawaykidpoker

What sites that are US friendly have consistent PLO runnin from 20-100 PLO other than Bovada/Sealswithclubs?

WPN has got some good games plo 25+

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04-30-2015 , 05:48 PM

#2920

11t

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How big regularly runs?

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04-30-2015 , 09:34 PM

#2921

spaceman Bryce

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Originally Posted by AA Suited

why did you raise with ak56 rainbow?!

my thought process was that he was raising a number of hands but not super laggy like maybe 35% of hands and that I had AK and 56 connectors so I could 3 bet bluff and then if I got called I would still have A and K blockers and connectors.
I dont have any hud yet and havent trawled through propokertools so Im not sure how bad the math is on it. It seemed reasonable to me. In texas holdem its easy to calculate what percentile your hand is in because theres not 16k hands!

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05-03-2015 , 01:51 AM

#2922

LordRiverRat

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Hey guys I'm new to PLO just wondering what's a good VPIP/PFR/3 bet for 6 max at the lowest level microstakes? Also what should be a good raise first in for each position?

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05-03-2015 , 02:35 AM

#2923

LordRiverRat

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Also what would be good win rates for say 5PLO and 50PLO?

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05-03-2015 , 07:21 AM

#2924

blitzT4M4Y0theGOAT

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Originally Posted by LordRiverRat

Hey guys I'm new to PLO just wondering what's a good VPIP/PFR/3 bet for 6 max at the lowest level microstakes? Also what should be a good raise first in for each position?

depends on your style

this helped me in the transition from NLHE tho, http://en.donkr.com/Articles/plo-fro...h---part-1-186

gl