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10-22-2016 , 07:58 AM

Mindead

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Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,030

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $7.41 (29.6 bb)
BB: $25.50 (102 bb)
CO: $49.24 (197 bb)
Hero (BTN): $30.89 (123.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A

CO folds, Hero raises to $0.62, SB folds, BB raises to $1.96, Hero calls $1.34

Flop: ($4.02) 7

(2 players)
BB bets $3.85, Hero ?

BB is 34/22/6% 3bet oop / 80% cbet - 500 hands

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10-22-2016 , 08:05 AM

.isolated

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I think it's too obvious what to do. I think you know what to do. Why don't you give your thoughts first instead of random stats? The way to learn from hands is to correct your thinking, not just make the right play in a single hand. As is, the hand is useless.

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10-22-2016 , 08:18 AM

Mindead

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Originally Posted by .isolated

Some people don't even read them, but I appreciate if you do

We have 46% equity vs 7+,68+ and vs QQ+,68+

We need 46% to SO, we shove and hope to have FE some day, and give some money to Pokerstars

That is my thought

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10-22-2016 , 01:24 PM

NMcNasty

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Originally Posted by Mindead

We have 46% equity vs 7+,68+ and vs QQ+,68+

This was actually a bit higher than I expected, and after playing around a bit our equity is the same pretty much regardless of what villain's 3bet is. Vs 4% we have about 45% and vs 30% we have 47%.

So we really can't fold, and just calling is awkward for most turns. So yeah I think shoving probably is the best play even though its really just breakeven EV. Good for our image though.

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10-22-2016 , 04:42 PM

Loctus

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Call some of the time raise some of the time. Ain't rocketo-scienco

or jam all of the time but then you have to jam all of the time with stuff like sets and 2p+ and wraps too

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10-22-2016 , 07:56 PM

.isolated

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Originally Posted by Mindead

But that's not a thought. You didn't even mention what you think you should do and why.

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Call some of the time raise some of the time. Ain't rocketo-scienco

or jam all of the time but then you have to jam all of the time with stuff like sets and 2p+ and wraps too

*yawn* come on, man. We have 500 hands with this guy. Even with 10k hands against someone, do you think they're going to have some read on what we do with what part of our range when we call his 3-bet otb after we open when it's folded to us?

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10-22-2016 , 08:35 PM

Rei Ayanami

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Originally Posted by Loctus

or jam all of the time but then you have to jam all of the time with stuff like sets and 2p+ and wraps too

Even if balance were important, this isn't true. Looking at this in PPT, seems like just two pair would be enough to balance all of 86/64/43.

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10-23-2016 , 12:09 AM

tofurocks

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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami

Even if balance were important, this isn't true. Looking at this in PPT, seems like just two pair would be enough to balance all of 86/64/43.

How do you know what the ideal ratio of hands to bet OTF is? I'm not clear on what you need to do to have a correctly balanced flop betting range.

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10-23-2016 , 12:42 AM

PastyDonkey

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So that your shoving range isn't so weak that naked overpairs, which he will have a lot of, can profitably bet call. So you need enough 2p+ to make them indifferent between calling and folding to your shove. So Rei says in PPT he found that if you shove all our 2p and your oesds your range should be balanced.

I chose naked overpairs as the class of hands to make indifferent once they cbet because reasons and also I don't know if BB should be cbetting that many of his naked overpairs on this board. So when it actually comes down to it i have no idea what's going on.

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10-23-2016 , 09:40 AM

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AVO

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I'd push.

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