bet flop? call turn?

The first one is close but I would also prob check since we are 4 way. You've got solid equity but I wouldn't like to play for stacks at this point.
I think turn is a fold.

The second hand I like the cbet. I would bet lower though. I really see no reason why you bet pot here. And I don't think folding is right here.
Had you cbet less you'd be getting even better odds after the raise from the villain.

In general, when I have a nut FD I tend to cbet it if I have something to go with it. At least a couple of overs to the board if we're HU.

I don't see why we should call the raise flop. Besides donking the flush, what is your plan for profiting with the call?

I would donk the turn.

We need 29% equity to call the bet. If he has blockers we're at around 28% so we're at least close.

As I said, I think we should call. I could be very wrong. If we would cbet less than it becomes an easy call imo.

I cb in hand 1 even though there's so many people in the pot.

Hand 2 cb smaller imo. I don't see the point in such a big bet, especially not on a board that people are so unlikely to smash



Guys hand 2 we're in position and thus not donking ****

Yeah you're right. I was answering a question without realising I'm an idiot

First hand is fine

Second hand, I would tend to take the free card here on the flop because there are a lot of improvers ... any high card either gives us a pair (possibly top pair) or a straight draw. Even after betting and getting check-raised I'm tempted to call because there are so many improvers. I'd feel better about c-betting the deeper it is (Because then you can call the check-raise with good implied odds).

so when villain raises us on the turn we have to pay $3.57 to win approximately 8.60. so we are getting 2.5:1. We cannot count the 2 of diamonds as an out. So we win on 8 cards and lose on 37. so our chances of hitting vs missing are 1:4.5. so the question becomes, can we make up enough in implied odds the 18% of the time that we do turn our flush. it's not simply a question of raw equity, since if we brick the turn villain can bet again, so our odds to see the river are considerably worse, depending on and if villain bets. but we also have the potential to get money in with high equity on the turn. so it's a complicated analysis.

Oh. My bad.

I call then

Hand 1:
I cbet/jam and pot any K, Q, A, 7, 2, 3, 4, 5 on turn if called. I think T7+ and all straight draws with clubs shove on such a draw heavy board, and straight draws with no clubs w/ or w/o a pair just flat, so i'm not sure about a T, and on a J, 8 or 6 I'm realizing my equity, and bluffing board pairing rivers if I miss since I expect all sets/2p to jam flop.. Why are some of you not cbetting? Is all of this just spew?

Hand 2:
I check back flop and go for a delayed cbet on turn, we have a ton of backdoors we can back into and getting c/r on flop would really suck. We can call just about any turn and bluff a ton of rivers vs his range and sometimes he bluffs/value bet diamonds putting us in a real juicy position. It just looks like a great spot/hand to put a nut flush draw into our check back range.