NFD 3 way on flop vs big action, un pair'd board

[hisboyelroy]

I almost sure someone has trips but 3 to 1 w/ NFD
IDK if the pot size ='s the risk?

Cake Poker, $0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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Hero (BB): $10.53 (52.6 bb)
MP: $20.46 (102.3 bb)
CO: $9.19 (45.9 bb)
BTN: $86.36 (431.8 bb)
SB: $27.02 (135.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 Q A 9
MP folds, CO calls $0.20, BTN folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $0.80, CO calls $0.60, SB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.40) 8 6 K (3 players)
SB bets $2.40, Hero calls $2.40, CO raises to $8.39, SB raises to $16.80, Hero calls $7.20

Turn: ($29.99) 5 (3 players)
River: ($29.99) A (3 players)

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[hisboyelroy]

If your wondering w/ my call, if the turn is at T,J,diamond im going with it, everything else im folding

[Gabethebabe]

When you call off the last $7.20 I'm sure you have enough equity - you also have a pair which gives them one less boat out.

The initial call is more dubious, SB firing out pot into two people usually means he hit big and if CO folds you made a dubious investment. You are really only happy with a diamond turn, a J/T turn and villain shoving (exactly PSB left) is kinda meh too.

[apo5tol]

I'm shoving flop myself over sb's bet. Also, no chance in hell I'm folding a hand like this for 1bet on the flop.

That being said, I dont think I raise pre being this short (why no full buyin?)

[hisboyelroy]

i was playin really loose and bad and short stacking helps me make better decisions, im either fully invested to folding

[lifes3ps]

vwp wouldnt change a thing

[DickeLatte]

Originally Posted by apo5tol

I'm shoving flop myself over sb's bet.

SB's donk looks very strong here, so we're not doing that well vs his range here plus i don't think we have real FE here vs him.

on the other hand, i don't think we're doing (much) worse vs their combined ranges than vs sb alone.

so with pretty much the same equity HU and 3way and no FE when raising, i'd never raise sb's bet here. this way you can keep CO in with dominated draws plus chances are better to stay 3way (nfd does so much better 3way than HU)


so, wp OP. but buy in full.

[arukidinme]

Not sure how anyone else feels about the raise pre? We are in the BB and opening back up the action and building the pot it a hand that is going to flop pretty well one way. There are a few flops we might bet an OPES or some gutshots to go with our equity but often we are going to have about 30% equity on the flop with this hand if we gii. As a result I probably just skip the raise. Also would suck to get 3b and be left with ~psb and a hand that will play poorly against AAxx.

As mentioned your equity is going to be close to the same going HU or 3ways so a flat is best, would also continue on a 7, A and if I am feeling frisky any Q and 5 too. Villain is probably more likely to have 88 or 66 then KK being that the action was all limped preflop but I don't play a lot of small stakes on cake so I could be wrong about this and it's normal for players to limp call with KKxx type of hands. Even a 5o on the turn would be a fine card to gii with a PSB left

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board: K685

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
K8,88,kk,66,79T	71.91%	398,991	4,050
AdQd6d9s	28.09%	154,639	4,050

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Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
K8,88,kk,66,79T	66.83%	372,643	68
AdQd6d9s	33.17%	184,969	68

[Gabethebabe]

I am not raising this pre OOP

But I am kinda nitty

[DickeLatte]

Originally Posted by Gabethebabe

But I am kinda nitty

i'd rather call it solid. not raising pre here is better imo and far from nitty.

[x148318]

Bad pre this hand is junk even worse oop. Nut flush draw in a multi way Allin is exactly what we want so happy days, obviously your going to lose just under 2 out of 3 times though so if you care a lot about short term results your not going to be very happy