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10-16-2015 , 02:45 PM

Mindead

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[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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Hero (SB): $7.87 (157.4 bb)
BB: $5.91 (118.2 bb)
UTG: $5 (100 bb)
MP: $3.52 (70.4 bb)
CO: $20.73 (414.6 bb)
BTN: $3.81 (76.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8

2 folds, CO raises to $0.15, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.13, BB folds

Flop: ($0.35) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.94, CO calls $0.74

Turn: ($2.23) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, CO calls $1.80

River: ($5.83) K

(2 players)
Hero ?

Villain reg 20/15

Do you stop firing here the naked bluff? What would you do with the nutflush btw?

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10-17-2015 , 02:11 AM

Darkfangs

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Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 540

If you decide to throw the 2nd barrel you have to throw the 3rd barrel. If you can't three barrel that hand or it's a villian who isn't going to fold to any amount of barrels with the king or queen high flush then you need to fold flop.

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10-17-2015 , 02:25 AM

Rei Ayanami

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Originally Posted by Darkfangs

If you decide to throw the 2nd barrel you have to throw the 3rd barrel.

Not true. Double-barrel should be ~0 EV by itself with this hand; if it's not, you shouldn't be making it without a special read. You can follow up, of course, but it shouldn't be done with 100% frequency.

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Originally Posted by Mindead

Do you stop firing here the naked bluff? What would you do with the nutflush btw?

Depends on how often people at 5 PLO can find the fold button in your experience. Easy value shove.

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10-17-2015 , 04:27 AM

Grethe

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If he has just a small piece of brain, you can't have a hand on the river. Well besides AcK6x(c)...

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10-17-2015 , 04:33 AM

z0mgtiltz

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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami

Depends on how often people at 5 PLO can find the fold button in your experience. Easy value shove.

You mean as an exploit? Just wondering what hands you would use to balance if this were vs a tougher opponent. KxAc?

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10-17-2015 , 04:55 AM

Rei Ayanami

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Originally Posted by z0mgtiltz

You mean as an exploit? Just wondering what hands you would use to balance if this were vs a tougher opponent. KxAc?

If you're asking if AcXc (without a king) can valuebet this particular river against a competent opponent, the answer is yes.

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10-17-2015 , 07:25 AM

z0mgtiltz

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No I'm asking what hands you're gonna use to bluff if you valuebet this since I assume shoving too many naked Ac will suck on this river. So I thought KxAc

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10-17-2015 , 07:41 AM

Rei Ayanami

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SB flatting range, which is on the tighter side, should have a higher ratio than most of Acc to total Ac, so you can actually shove a pretty high % of AcX if you want to be balanced. Acc to Ac_(bare)Kx is something like a 9:1 ratio (and that's even before we add our boats), so that wouldn't be enough.

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10-17-2015 , 10:15 AM

z0mgtiltz

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That's true. TY

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10-17-2015 , 10:22 AM

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Tithayer

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You're repping only a flush, and will prolly have to face a raise to your bet. In villains position I'm most of the time betting pot/ reraising you if I don't have the flush, and calling w/ flush. I'd just give it up here in your position, facing a set or KJ type of hand, and even w/ nut flush, I'd just call a small bet
It's really the worst card to go on with a bluff

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10-18-2015 , 04:23 AM

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Charlie Yu

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Villian flatting range has a lot of FH here I think?

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