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03-22-2017 , 02:14 PM
Vilian is 35/23 26% mp open , im not a big fan to 3b against this stronger range ,
flop: i think we can,t just pass
turn : i rreally dont want to see free card , but he will bet only with really stong hands , he almost snap raise mee , for me is difficult spot

    Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    Hero (SB): $50 (100 bb)
    BB: $127.06 (254.1 bb)
    UTG: $26.81 (53.6 bb)
    MP: $258.20 (516.4 bb)
    CO: $107.81 (215.6 bb)
    BTN: $30.86 (61.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A T K J
    UTG folds, MP raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25

    Flop: ($5.25) 8 4 A (3 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks, MP bets $2.74, Hero calls $2.74, BB calls $2.74

    Turn: ($13.47) T (3 players)
    Hero bets $11.50, BB folds, MP raises to $47.30, Hero calls $34.01 and is all-in

    River: ($104.49) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $104.49 pot ($2 rake)
    Final Board: 8 4 A T 9
    Hero showed A T K J and lost (-$50 net)
    BB mucked and lost (-$4.49 net)
    MP showed 7 8 7 8 and won $102.49 ($52.49 net)
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    03-22-2017 , 05:39 PM
    26%mp open is not a strong range lol, could be that you have too few hands on him. def 3bet pre against a 35/23 player with this hand.

    as played, I would c/shove turn (or c/c against smaller sizing) because he can bet with worse on the turn. with your line I still think you have to call it off, maybe he put you on a straight draw and thinks he's protecting with lower 2p.

    Last edited by md46135; 03-22-2017 at 05:44 PM.
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    03-22-2017 , 06:22 PM
    Pre: 3bet is better option. You'll dominate his SD/FD/2Pair alot
    flop: we just never never give up
    turn: I'd fold, people just don't bluff on such a spots, and there not much draws both in his and your ranges after cbet/call cbet 3way.
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    03-22-2017 , 09:33 PM
    I know 25% is not that thight from this position , but is thight inaf and i think is hard to play against this range OOP in 3b pot.

    I dont think we pushing that much eq :
    AcThKdJh 51.76% 291,734 37,606
    25% 48.24% 270,660 37,606
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    03-22-2017 , 10:10 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rorooen
    I know 25% is not that thight from this position , but is thight inaf and i think is hard to play against this range OOP in 3b pot.

    I dont think we pushing that much eq :
    AcThKdJh 51.76% 291,734 37,606
    25% 48.24% 270,660 37,606
    you should try to make your own opening ranges and not use just top 25% of hands as that's not really what people are opening. i actually have a 26% range that i use and we're doing ok vs. it:



    you mentioned that it's hard to play vs. this range OOP in a 3b pot. what's harder? playing vs. a "tight range" that you're ahead of with initiative in w/ a smaller SPR, or MW w/o the initiative with a face-up range and the worst absolute and relative position possible with a high SPR? (bb will come along a lot here)
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    03-22-2017 , 10:48 PM
    3bet PF and fold turn should be fairly obvious as others have said. Your hand is strong enough vs. villain's opening range so I think 3betting here is ok. Calling isn't terrible but 3betting mixes things up and disguises your AAxx hands. This is something I had to work on. I'd be super tight in the blinds and only raise or 3bet with AAxx hands but as I got more experience I'd "loosen" up and 3bet with suited AA and broadway run downs, etc.


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    Last edited by achalmers; 03-22-2017 at 10:56 PM.
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    03-22-2017 , 11:11 PM
    Folding turn is obvious?!?!
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    03-23-2017 , 01:26 AM
    as other say 3 betting in blinds actually might help you win hands like this as most people think its auto AA and thus play accordingly. Depends if a villain can fold bottom set or not. Not here cos your only 100bbs


    As played the villian instantly dismisses AA and thus knows hes ahead because of your PF action. You can fold here on the turn becuase the board is dry and you've bet two streets hard. Villain is not coming over the top of you with worse. At best you've same hand with a redraw.
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    03-23-2017 , 08:52 AM
    In my previous reply I meant to say I'd raise or 3bet from the blinds with a suited Ace (AKJx, AQJx, AQTx, A987 suited, etc.) and broadway run downs. Not suited AA...but I'd raise with those too, obviously haha.


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