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Missing  so much Value with Calling Missing  so much Value with Calling

08-16-2017 , 05:15 AM
Hey Guys

in the following hand, i think i make a huge misstake with not calling his cbet ?! SB raises very much 3 bet pre flop , and i think he dont have aces so much.

should he have aces, i think he ist commited mith his Set aces.

What are you say, you guys agree with me when i am saying , raising on the flop is a misstake ?

( this thougts with calling the flop, came after the hand )

    Party, $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $4.53 (226.5 bb)
    BB: $2.31 (115.5 bb)
    CO: $2.03 (101.5 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $2.68 (134 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 5 A 3
    CO folds, Hero raises to $0.07, SB raises to $0.21, BB folds, Hero calls $0.14

    Flop: ($0.44) 2 6 A (2 players)
    SB bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.32, SB folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $1.04 pot ($0.05 rake)
    Final Board: 2 6 A
    SB mucked and lost (-$0.51 net)
    Hero mucked 4 5 A 3 and won $0.99 ($0.48 net)
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    08-16-2017 , 06:51 AM
    Yes. Raising folds out his bluffs and inflates pot when he's ahead.
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    08-16-2017 , 07:22 AM
    In a SB vs. BTN situation where the SB has 3bet you, you shouldn't have much of a x/r range on this board at all as SB is going to have more AAxx combos than you do so you should be calling with your entire continuation range here, even when you have sets yourself.
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    08-16-2017 , 07:49 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SolarAU
    In a SB vs. BTN situation where the SB has 3bet you, you shouldn't have much of a x/r range on this board at all as SB is going to have more AAxx combos than you do so you should be calling with your entire continuation range here, even when you have sets yourself.
    +1
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    08-17-2017 , 11:26 AM
    In position vs an aggressive player, calling is obviously almost always better when you have a monster.

    Still at PLO2 your inclination should be to just get it in as soon as possible whenever you have tons of equity, especially in reraised pots. I wouldn't call raising a "mistake". I'm also not convinced that calling is optimal theory-wise. SB vs Bu should have pretty wide ranges, I imagine both pure-bluff raising and semi-bluff raising flops would be in play, so of course value-raising would be as well.
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    08-17-2017 , 06:48 PM
    Raising is never a big mistake imo unless villain has huge leaks we exploit more by calling
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    08-18-2017 , 10:01 AM
    thank you guys so much fpr your answers.

    as i can see, there are different views.

    and thats nice, i think so i have morge options to think about the hand
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    08-18-2017 , 12:13 PM
    tbh there shouldn´t be too many different views, it´s not a complicated spot, and Solar pretty much nailed it.

    also, even forgetting about ranges for a moment, if there is a prototype hand to flat this board in position, it would probably be Acc543
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    08-23-2017 , 07:42 PM
    its funny.

    vs an aggresive 3 bettor you should call, b/c they're range is wide.
    vs a more passive player you should call, b/c they're range is more narrow.
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