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01-30-2017 , 10:04 PM
Villain is 21/17 over 200 hands. Up $25 so far between 2 tables.

UTG: $10 (40 bb)
Hero (MP): $32.92 (131.7 bb)
CO: $25.71 (102.8 bb)
BTN: $61.91 (247.6 bb)
SB: $46.11 (184.4 bb)
BB: $46.51 (186 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 5 8 8 9
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.50, CO calls $0.50, BTN calls $0.50, SB calls $0.40, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($2.50) Q 8 5 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, CO calls $1.25, BTN raises to $5, 2 folds, Hero calls $3.75, CO folds

Turn: ($13.75) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $13.07


Hero???
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01-31-2017 , 01:38 AM
Pot pre for max value from this great hand that we should definitely be opening in MP
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01-31-2017 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tofurocks
Pot pre for max value from this great hand that we should definitely be opening in MP
LOL. your first 300 posts most have been fold pre and now you are bored.
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01-31-2017 , 06:09 PM
I'm not folding pre, it's a good hand, that's why you opened it right?
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01-31-2017 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tofurocks
I'm not folding pre, it's a good hand, that's why you opened it right?
If it's a good hand and we flop the best we can possibly flop then we have to go all-in right, otherwise why would we ever play this hand in the first place.
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01-31-2017 , 09:17 PM
Nice hand pre. Nice hand post flop but with no redraws. I'd say you're either crushed against top set or a very slight favorite over a wrap.

Based on his turn bet I'd say your up against the higher set and find the fold button.
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01-31-2017 , 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkfangs
If it's a good hand and we flop the best we can possibly flop then we have to go all-in right, otherwise why would we ever play this hand in the first place.
If he was going to get it in, I think it should have been done on the flop. Once he calls the re-raise on the flop and V bets on the turn I think we are beat nearly 100% of the time.
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02-01-2017 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SpewUrStack
If he was going to get it in, I think it should have been done on the flop. Once he calls the re-raise on the flop and V bets on the turn I think we are beat nearly 100% of the time.
The flop is so dry. Hero has a blocker to bottom set. The only holding that Hero beats that this story matches is QJT9 with hearts.
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02-01-2017 , 04:43 AM
For what it's worth, and don't know if I'm alone here, but I hate 2x opens
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02-01-2017 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SpewUrStack
If he was going to get it in, I think it should have been done on the flop. Once he calls the re-raise on the flop and V bets on the turn I think we are beat nearly 100% of the time.

I mean that's not the case at all. The 2x open looks weak and he only c-bets half pot multiway on the flop, so I don't hate a raise by villain to take control of the hand. He could have all sorts of wraps with backdoor flush draws, some QXXX with backdoor flush draws that realise their equity on the turn, 2 pair hands and a lower set (even though we have blockers). QQ is only one hand.
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02-01-2017 , 05:12 AM
Very, very, VERY clear fold pre-flop. Like, not even close.
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02-01-2017 , 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by U5eless Bluff
I mean that's not the case at all. The 2x open looks weak and he only c-bets half pot multiway on the flop, so I don't hate a raise by villain to take control of the hand. He could have all sorts of wraps with backdoor flush draws, some QXXX with backdoor flush draws that realise their equity on the turn, 2 pair hands and a lower set (even though we have blockers). QQ is only one hand.
Right. Every hand is equally likely...
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02-01-2017 , 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by gay_on_tse
Right. Every hand is equally likely...
Yep all 110% as likely as each other equally split across all possibilities
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