In this hand, every decision I had to make was easy, but what I was wondering is how I would have played this hand in the VILLAIN'S shoes.

The villain had: 5 5 6 6

I gotta be honest, I'm not sure I wouldn't have folded that pre. Two pairs look pretty but what are you hoping to flop, 234? A set of 5s or 6s? The former would be nice but nearly impossible and the latter - it would be hard to get a worse hand to stack off.

That horrible flop - a made straight could be out there already, straight draws, flush draws, and you have a player who donked full pot into 4 people.

I never want to advocate folding a flopped set but how can villain POSSIBLY continue here? What's he going to do, call full pot, hope the board pairs on the turn and hope nobody raises behind him?

Thoughts?

Merge - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 68.5 BB
SB: 186 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 45)
BB: 523.1 BB (VPIP: 44.19, PFR: 23.26, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 87)
UTG: 40 BB (VPIP: 57.89, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 76)
MP: 7.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
CO: 129.2 BB (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 9 9 A

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, CO calls 1 BB, Hero calls 1 BB, SB calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (5 BB, 5 players) 6 9 T
SB bets 5 BB, fold, fold, CO ???

Folding pre is atrocious; flop is an easy call.

Just to be clear, are you saying that about Hero's hand or Villain's hand?

I meant to delete my own hand from the HH - sorry.

Villain's

How is 5566 an easy call on that flop? What do you think a player who's so passive he hasn't raised pre in 45 hands is donking full pot into 5 people with? Are you going to call another pot bet on the turn?

It depends , is the turn a 6?

anytime u have the bare nuts beat on the flop and u fold u should probably reconsider your outlook on the game

How exactly does a set of 6s have the bare nuts (89) beat on that flop?

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Sounds like you didn't notice the diamond draw.

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10,250,000 trials (Exhaustive)

board: 69T

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
87	44.31%	4,541,320	0
6h6d5h5d	55.69%	5,708,680	0

Even with a skew towards redrawy hands, CO is still doing really well here.

There are also a bunch of turns a nit might slow down on or bet like half pot or something (offsuit J/Q/K/8/7 when those don't improve him). Will be fairly easy to know if the low flush is good on diamond turns, after all SB is a nit. The combination of improving often + maneuverability makes it a bad fold. BTN also isn't continuing most of the time so that isn't a big factor.

Wow. Learned a lot in this thread. When this hand was over I thought to myself, "Man, this guy is REALLY bad!" This hand was just a cooler, wasn't it? I just had basically one of the few hands he didn't want me to have.

When the action got to me on the button I potted it with the intention of getting my whole stack in the middle. Both players called. Turn was the 2 of hearts. CO actually donked pot into me on the turn and I raised all in (I was pot committed). I don't remember what the river was but my hand held up.

OK, stupid question - let's say CO calls and BTN has 89xx with no flush draws. What ranges do you put SB and CO on when calculating your pot equity? Or do you even care - do you just say "I haz the nutz I must pot" and get it in even though there's a handful of hands you might actually be behind?

Because he gambled with a set and a flush draw? A guy called me on the river today on an 88877 board with T754.

just call with bare nuts. unless u dont like money

OK fair enough. Is the bare nuts giving up on a turn that either pairs the board or puts three to a flush on the board facing aggression?

One more question - one of the reasons I'm hesitant to play a hand like 5566 is because if you do flop a set it can be really hard to get a worse hand to pay you off. Doesn't this hand illustrate my point?

I mean, could his starting hand possibly have flopped any better (other than maybe 234 which could still give villains redraws to higher straights)? And isn't any good flop for 5566ss likely to be a BETTER flop for someone else?