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02-08-2015 , 12:17 AM
First of all I just want to say I am aware that I need to get some serious gambling addiction help, and am currently seeking help. I am not looking for advice in this regards. I am a winning player up to PLO100 with a destructive gambling addiction to sports betting. Currently I am $8,000 dollars in debt entirely due to sports betting. I have $437.17 on Pokerstars and about $50 cash to my name along with a car worth $12,000 which I am going to have to sell to repay my debts in the event that I fail this challenge. I am going to give poker one last shot with my remaining bankroll and try to climb out of this hole I have put myself into.

I am using this thread in the hopes that it will help to motivate me to put in volume and hold myself accountable for my degenerate actions. I will be posting my total bankroll after each session along with a brief summary of how I feel I played etc. along with anything else on my mind. I am going to being playing 50PLO (I know I am severely under-rolled) and hope to get a bit of run good to start off with. I self excluded myself for a 48 hour period to try and clear my head before this challenge. The self exclusion period ends in 4 hours so that will be when my first session begins. Here's to hoping the poker gods show me a little love.

I have already posted this thread in the Poker, Goals & Challenges thread. I was unsure if this type of thread is allowed in SSPLO but would prefer to have it here as it is completely PLO related. Would any mod be able to clarify this for me please? If I get the thumbs up for this thread to be here I will remove the initial thread and just post here.
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02-08-2015 , 12:30 AM
I'm not a mod, but I can confidently say that the policy is that such threads belong into the Poker Goals & Challenges subforum only, even if they're PLO-exclusive. See e.g. this precedent.

There's however a united 2015 goals thread here, where you can give a summary of your goals and a link to the PG&C thread.

As far as I see, your current PG&C thread is this one; interested readers will subscribe to it, don't worry.

Good luck with the rebuild. When Pokerstars introduce sports betting to their offering (it's expected to happen this quarter, iirc), make sure to ask their support to ban you from that section.
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02-08-2015 , 01:44 AM
gl OP
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02-08-2015 , 02:25 AM
Damn, gambling addiction is a real problem...
You know you are under-rolled so play smaller; even with perfect poker this is too risky!
Try to get some stacking... GL!
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02-08-2015 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by this_passing
gl OP
Thanks, by the way I really enjoyed watching your videos.
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02-08-2015 , 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by cachorromagro
Damn, gambling addiction is a real problem...
You know you are under-rolled so play smaller; even with perfect poker this is too risky!
Try to get some stacking... GL!
Some good advice, your definitely right. However that's not going to deter me from playing with fire. In the worst case scenario, I go bust, sell my car, repay my debts and I'll have a decent roll for 50PLO left over.
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02-08-2015 , 10:37 AM
Running like a god at the moment, sitting on just over $1k across 4 tables of zoom 50PLO. If anyone wants to come try rain on my parade be my guest. It should be easy enough to figure out who I am. I'll be playing for the next hour and a half or so.
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02-08-2015 , 12:02 PM
did u ever coached for plo??
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02-08-2015 , 12:03 PM
At the end of the day, you're in control of your own actions... but if I were you I'd sit out, collect your winnings and then start fresh in a few hours or tomorrow.

You'll be slightly more rolled for the limits you're playing and will have a much better chance at grinding towards repaying your debt.

If you keep playing deep stack, you run the chance of losing a big pot that you can't afford and may play -EV trying to get it back as you've already exhibited 'chasing' behaviour.

Either way... Good luck man. Gambling addiction is a bitch and I hope that you're able to conquer it.
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02-08-2015 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BDM
did u ever coached for plo??
I've never been coached per se but am lucky enough to have a couple of midstakes PLO crushers as friends to bounce ideas of and talk strategy with.
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02-08-2015 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Omaha Boy
I've never been coached per se but am lucky enough to have a couple of midstakes PLO crushers as friends to bounce ideas of and talk strategy with.
well sorry for my english but i mean if u make coaching for other peoples
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02-08-2015 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CoinTheCoin
At the end of the day, you're in control of your own actions... but if I were you I'd sit out, collect your winnings and then start fresh in a few hours or tomorrow.

You'll be slightly more rolled for the limits you're playing and will have a much better chance at grinding towards repaying your debt.

If you keep playing deep stack, you run the chance of losing a big pot that you can't afford and may play -EV trying to get it back as you've already exhibited 'chasing' behaviour.

Either way... Good luck man. Gambling addiction is a bitch and I hope that you're able to conquer it.
Thanks man, appreciated. You're definitely right, I took your advice and am calling it a day. I started to notice I was playing sub-optimally near the end of my session. I think two of my biggest leak are playing too many hours at once and playing when tired. I'm really pleased with how I played today. It's hard to play bad when things are going your way and your running good. I finished the day of with $1,237.99 and +6,500FPPs thanks to the rake fest that is 50PLO. Time to hit the hay and get back on the grind tomorrow!
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02-08-2015 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BDM
well sorry for my english but i mean if u make coaching for other peoples
Never coached before and in all honesty I don't think I'd be particularly good at it.
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02-08-2015 , 01:01 PM
gl boy nothing better than gambling for your life. Hope you can overcome ****ing sportsbetting addiction tho:/
What´s your stars nick if you want to out it?
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02-08-2015 , 11:23 PM
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It's hard to play bad when things are going your way and your running good
I find it pretty easy to play bad here. It's ahrd to paly bad when you give your self such a meh chance of success (8.6 buy in roll = wtf you must be in a rush )
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02-08-2015 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by coon74
I'm not a mod, but I can confidently say that the policy is that such threads belong into the Poker Goals & Challenges subforum only, even if they're PLO-exclusive. See e.g. this precedent.

There's however a united 2015 goals thread here, where you can give a summary of your goals and a link to the PG&C thread.

As far as I see, your current PG&C thread is this one; interested readers will subscribe to it, don't worry.

Good luck with the rebuild. When Pokerstars introduce sports betting to their offering (it's expected to happen this quarter, iirc), make sure to ask their support to ban you from that section.
Sorry, I forgot to reply to your comment earlier. That's some advice I will definitely take, having sports betting as an option for me on Pokerstars is just asking for trouble. For now I'll keep my fingers crossed and keep posting here until told otherwise.
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02-08-2015 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mt.FishNoob
I find it pretty easy to play bad here. It's ahrd to paly bad when you give your self such a meh chance of success (8.6 buy in roll = wtf you must be in a rush )
As long as I have a back up plan (selling my car) it's strongly in my interest to be playing the most +EV games I can, even if I am under-rolled in terms of liquid cash.
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02-09-2015 , 02:54 AM
Why would you play plo50?

You are already in debt and life ****ed, just hit shortstack plo1k and hit rock bottom faster.

I mean the smart thing to do is obviously to withdraw and get a job, but you aren't gonna come to that realisation until you busto your account. Firing up the big boy tables at least gets you a story/a chance at actually running it up.
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02-09-2015 , 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S
Why would you play plo50?

You are already in debt and life ****ed, just hit shortstack plo1k and hit rock bottom faster.

I mean the smart thing to do is obviously to withdraw and get a job, but you aren't gonna come to that realisation until you busto your account. Firing up the big boy tables at least gets you a story/a chance at actually running it up.
Critiques me for playing 50PLO, recommends PLO1k... Care to explain how playing in games I am massively -EV with 1BI is gives me a better chance of "actually running it up"?

If/when I run up my bankroll I'm gonna get a lot of extra satisfaction from these types of comments, cheers for the motivation!
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02-09-2015 , 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Omaha Boy
Never coached before and in all honesty I don't think I'd be particularly good at it.
ok thanks anyway and gl
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02-09-2015 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Omaha Boy
Critiques me for playing 50PLO, recommends PLO1k... Care to explain how playing in games I am massively -EV with 1BI is gives me a better chance of "actually running it up"?

If/when I run up my bankroll I'm gonna get a lot of extra satisfaction from these types of comments, cheers for the motivation!
maybe he sounded harsh, but imo he´s the only guy itt that really gives you some honest and good advice
btw i hope you run it up and quit
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02-09-2015 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sauhund
maybe he sounded harsh, but imo he´s the only guy itt that really gives you some honest and good advice
btw i hope you run it up and quit
Thanks, hopefully I can pull myself out of this mess. But let's be honest there was zero good advice there, were you referring to "Firing up the big boy tables at least gets you a story/a chance at actually running it up." That would literally be the worst, most degenerate thing I could do right now apart from perhaps trying to run it up sports betting. The other advice might be slightly applicable if I was a losing poker player. My demon is sports betting, not poker and that's what I need to conquer right now. I'm taking the appropriate steps and have my first GA meeting this Saturday.
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02-09-2015 , 11:38 AM
Current Bankroll: $1,235.11
FPPs: 19,548

A little bit frustrated with todays results, I felt like I played well just didn't manage to get anything going. Played for 9 hours and literally made nothing. Oh well, I guess I can't complain after yesterdays run good. On a positive note those FPPs are piling up quickly. I'm going to get some rest and continue the grind tomorrow.
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02-09-2015 , 11:43 AM
Gambling problem and poker is a pretty disasterous combination. Lol at "I only have a gambling problem when it comes to sports betting". The fact that you have a gambling problem in the first place is a pretty good indicator that you don't have the mindset of being a long term winning poker player. So honest advice would be stay out of the gambling business.

+1 to eskimo and sauhund
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02-09-2015 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by sauhund
maybe he sounded harsh, but imo he´s the only guy itt that really gives you some honest and good advice
btw i hope you run it up and quit
lol wut.

First off, he's not entirely life-****ed. $8k is not a lot of money and if he grinds hard, plays +ev poker, stays disciplined, and puts in the hours... he can easily pay it off and get back on his feet.

Encouraging him to gamble for it all IMO is the opposite of good advice.
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