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Just a few things that jump out at me. Too loose from sb, way too tight from bb, and a little too tight from CO and BTN. The 3-bet from blinds looks small but maybe I'm just hyper aggro from those positions. WTSD% is very similiar to mine but that probably changes a lot with stakes, W$SD% looks small, this should probably be around 50% but I could be wrong here. If you are value betting on river it should be 51%+ to be value betting correctly but if you are calling river then it only needs to be around 33%+ so if you say it like that your values seem ok, but when I look at mine it's 51%. Just my first observations, i'm sure there will be more and people who disagree with me.

Played a session with slightly below W$SD of 50. Really hard to get it above 50 for me...

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09-10-2016 , 04:28 PM

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you should add "EV bb/100" and "RFI" to this report...

i understand Darkfangs point about the VPIP for the bigblind beeing too low. But i would think about it in this way: If EV bb/100 looks fine, i maybe wouldn`t change the strategy.

You should also check your winrates for handgroupings. This is also a report where you can spot leaks.

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09-10-2016 , 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SYoonTenafly

Played a session with slightly below W$SD of 50. Really hard to get it above 50 for me...

You should never play a "session" with any goals for any stats tbh. Samplesize of one session is far too low and you only make stupid moves.

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09-10-2016 , 04:43 PM

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Darkfangs

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You should never play a "session" with any goals for any stats tbh. Samplesize of one session is far too low and you only make stupid moves.

+1 on this. If you make certain things your goal in a session like a dumb stat that is irrelevant it is going to make you play much worse in your other areas. You need to focus on playing good poker and the stats will come. If you find yourself in a difficult spot or something you are unsure of try and go over it first. If you are still completely lost or have no idea how to analyse the spot then make a post here and we can try and help.

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09-10-2016 , 05:24 PM

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SYoonTenafly

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Originally Posted by Controlling

you should add "EV bb/100" and "RFI" to this report...

i understand Darkfangs point about the VPIP for the bigblind beeing too low. But i would think about it in this way: If EV bb/100 looks fine, i maybe wouldn`t change the .

You should also check your winrates for handgroupings. This is also a report where you can spot leaks.

Here's my Position RFI
EP/MP/CO/BTN/SB/BB
13/19/19/25/10/8

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09-10-2016 , 05:25 PM

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SYoonTenafly

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Originally Posted by Controlling

you should add "EV bb/100" and "RFI" to this report...

i understand Darkfangs point about the VPIP for the bigblind beeing too low. But i would think about it in this way: If EV bb/100 looks fine, i maybe wouldn`t change the .

You should also check your winrates for handgroupings. This is also a report where you can spot leaks.

EV bb/100 - I don't see this

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09-10-2016 , 05:26 PM

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Your RFI from the SB is super low, are you just limping in on the SB when you have a hand you want to play? What are your guys thoughts on this? I kind of like it on one hand since you can't get 3bet, but on the other hand you might be missing chances to steal the BB from people who have x/f ticked.

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EV bb/100 - I don't see this

It should be called something like "All-in ev adjusted bb/100"
If you search "EV" you should find the stat

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09-10-2016 , 05:32 PM

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Got it. EV bb/100 = 12.6 , not that different from my bb/100 = 12.0

Last edited by SYoonTenafly; 09-10-2016 at 05:33 PM. Reason: bb/100 add

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09-10-2016 , 05:37 PM

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09-10-2016 , 05:44 PM

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Your RFI in the SB should be low. Because your play these hands 100% sure OOP. I think decent regs are defending about 95%, so "stealing" is not even possible. But if BB is folding a decent amount to SB steal, you should raise a lot more in SB of course. Limp is a nice option imo because we pay only 25% of pot and so we get immidiately good odds. But usually you get expoited very fast if BB is a reg. He will raise you close to 100%.

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09-10-2016 , 05:45 PM

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09-10-2016 , 05:54 PM

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You should check why your EV in the EP is negative. in the long run this must be postive of course. But check it.

You also should check your SB play. EV should be higher. You are starting at -50 and if we consider AA making at least 500bb/100 you have to end up at least somewhere about -30.

But your samplesize is still low and the reason can be easily variance or a few hands you played poorly. But keep an eye on it.

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09-10-2016 , 06:02 PM

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i think you will figure it out now yourself...

but don`t try to get positive EV for all handgroupings of the report. This is not possible

. (Maybe it is at plo2 but at pl025 for sure not)

by the way: did yo get the pdf?

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09-10-2016 , 06:16 PM

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TopPair2Pair

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sample size is way too low for any of this, you play ~25% of hands so we're talking bout 4K flops seen here.

Out of that 4K hands you prob cbet like 55-70%? And barrrel very often. possibly blowing out alot of value hands from worse holdings in CO&BN.

And prob don't play out and see enough later streets of your tighter range from EP.

Well done on the run good imo

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09-10-2016 , 07:29 PM

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sample size is way too low for any of this, you play ~25% of hands so we're talking bout 4K flops seen here.

its never to early to get used to the reports and have a look at some stats and the hands behind it. Of course the samplesize is low and this he has to take in account. Only stats doesnt make sense. you need to look at the hands behind the numbers. Maybe OP plays trash suited low-pairs from EP which influences his winrate in a negative way or he ran into some ugly unfortunate flops with his AA-hands. Who know.. But even if samplesize is small you can spot a few mistakes or leaks. And if you don`t, it`s variance.

I think its great when someone starts playing and uses HM regularly. Can`t see big disadvantages of it.

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09-10-2016 , 11:28 PM

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Yeah if your unfamiliar with hem then i agree, but its important to point out to new users of hem that 16K sample size isn't that trustworthy. And certain post flop stats just wont converge very well at all, based on opportunities faced.

Otherwise its just being results orientated. But yeah, your right in essence.

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09-11-2016 , 12:28 PM

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MadDogMoody

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Does PT4 have an option for creating a report by groupings of hands?

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09-12-2016 , 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SYoonTenafly

Be very wary with Small and Medium double pair hands. Implied odds are much worse than you might think as you usually make middle or bottom sets which are very vulnerable.

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09-12-2016 , 08:49 AM

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Be very wary with Small and Medium double pair hands. Implied odds are much worse than you might think as you usually make middle or bottom sets which are very vulnerable.

Yes, I just realized this...

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