Live 1/2 dealer's choice at Barcelona casino (95% PLO)

Astoundingly good game usually plays like a weak online PLO10 game has exploded into life since a very chirpy whale has taken to potting every hand pre, and usually repotting, never folding. To his left is sat a grumpy old Catalan who likes to play any 4 pre but is clearly annoyed by the English speaking whale and is trying to get him.

Straddle (grumpy old guy €450ish) is on.
UTG +1 calls.
Hero (€280) next to act flats Qc3cQd3d.
Three more flats then whale (€650ish) pots from BB to €33.
Grumpy straddle repots (for the second time in 8 hands in a similar spot) to whatever that is 125ish.

1 fold.

We?

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raise the first time as played u r obviously in a better position to determine what hands grumpy is going to three bet with than we r

Even if your read that there's a maniac-esque dynamic between these two players, this spot can be kinda close. Cold-calling is just asking for your entire stack to be threatened by a rejam from mr whale, and jamming I don't like too much either.

We'd love to see a flop with this hand but it's just not a spot we should be putting so much money into the pot I think given we can't close action, bad relative position etc.

If you say changed your hand to a premium ds high card rundown, most connected ss/ds KK/ AA combos I'd be jamming it in as played. I'd probably consider jamming some super premium QQ like AKQQds etc. Our particular hand just doesn't connect well with flops often enough if we say flat here, get flats behind us and get to see a flop with what would be a low SPR.

it's not the end of the world if we end up 3 way vs loose range and AA.

I ain't gonna play live PLO with a 70bb(straddle) stack and then fold double paired double suited Queens pre.

This doesn't mean that folding isn't the best choice though, ldo

Raise pre btw

I didn´t raise pre since the whale is raising limped pots 100%, don´t even think he´s looking. Grumpy guy would then call top 70%ish allowing me to jam over the top with the chance of folding out some dead money.

If I raise pre to 15, there is a chance the whale looks at his cards!

Anyway thanks for replies. I PPTed it myself when I got home and confirmed what I imagined that we are fistpump getting it in here. I think I´d never had a similar spot with this type of hand before so wasn´t sure of its MW aipf strength.

For any football fans, once I rebought and lost 200bb AIPF vs same guys, I left, and my seat was taken by Gerard Pique and they insta-raised the stakes to 5/10.

Reminds me of a couple weeks back, we had our monthly 5/10 HA homegame running, old friend of ours, absolutely loaded, terrible at poker shows up, he "convinces" us to make it 10/20

Is he not also 3b 100%? I imagine if you make a small fishy raise size to just $11 that he'd probably repot pre.

"fist pump jam" should be definitely wrong, though i dont mind to get it in with dsdp-hands against good regs i dont see a big edge on to get into future dynamics.
i think vs bad players especially against players who throw their money at you, i see it as a mistake to broke here 3way with such close equitys.

i would hate it too, but sighfold is best here.

yah but u said he is 'usually' repopping, so if u open u can stack off vs a random hand most of the time. that is good.

Clearly the best advice is to reload up to 650 covering the whale

Max BI 300 but yeah.

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I gave myself >40% 3 way which is a fistpump for me.

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Prob this as best livesploitation. When a maniac whale turns up game explodes because the old guys still wanna see that damn flop with Ks4s8s4c.

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It's not a tournament, presumably hero has ample bankroll for the game and can reload at will. If the play is +EV then he should make it. This is profitable both immediately and from a meta game perspective in that if people see you giving a lot of action they will be more inclined to gamble with you and pay you off.