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08-19-2016 , 07:53 PM

Chen Heiner

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 167

both villains unknown, BTN has limped some hands, so probably a rec.

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $26.45 (105.8 bb)
BB: $36.58 (146.3 bb)
UTG: $26.98 (107.9 bb)
MP: $29.43 (117.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $50.69 (202.8 bb)
BTN: $36.58 (146.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, SB raises to $3.25, BB folds, Hero calls $2.50, BTN calls $2.50

Flop: ($10) 4

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero ?

Any merits in betting here with an additional 5 blocker and backdoor diamonds for value/protection vs the fish or does the SB show up with AA too often? If called by just the fish, how do we continue on a 9

i.e.? I think we'll have the best hand reasonably often but just jamming it in for pot seems a little thin. On the other hand, I need a lot of protection and getting to SD and winning with unimproved KK will be very hard. Does that speak in favor of checking the flop?

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08-19-2016 , 08:24 PM

Controlling

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 593

This flop doesn`t hit SB`s range at all and really difficult to continue for him. Or can you image many hands that 3bet in SB and feel comfortable on this flop?

I would bet the flop and try to knock BTN out and get position and hope of course that SB also folds.

If you get raised, fold.

If you get called by SB you are often against an overpair. The 9

i would check tbh and look what the river brings us. Sometimes your KK will be best hand on river if it gets check check...

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08-19-2016 , 08:50 PM

z0mgtiltz

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 10,944

Probably try to get to showdown despite losing most of the time
Unless villain is x'f AA here, in which case I think it's prob a decent spot to stab

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08-20-2016 , 12:18 PM

Drrr.Gonzo

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,586

I would bet fold flop and only lead turn or river if the dynamic of the board changes such as it pairs or a back door flush comes and if he calls a second barrel shut it down, but open folding or checking flop is a mistake especially with a blocker.

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08-21-2016 , 06:36 AM

Chen Heiner

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 167

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Originally Posted by Controlling

This flop doesn`t hit SB`s range at all and really difficult to continue for him. Or can you image many hands that 3bet in SB and feel comfortable on this flop?

No, but I don't think anyone hit this flop hard and I feel like regs at these stakes go into x/c mode a lot with bare AA here.
That's what I was targeting at. We have contradicting arguments for both flop lines.

cons:
- SB might x/c AA a lot
- BTN can peel and make it very tough for us, getting to SD and winning with bare KK

pro:
- SB is going to x/f quite a bunch of missed overcards
- we can sometimes valuebet vs BTN
- protection
- we have a blocker and backdoors to also put further pressure on SB if he's going to x/c with bare AA for example

All in all it seems fairly close to me.

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08-21-2016 , 08:25 AM

wabomushroom

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 387

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Originally Posted by Chen Heiner

I agree with your conclusion that regs and recs will often x/c a lot of AA hands in a spot like this OTF. But they are usually also capable of folding to a second barrel. I'd say it's villain depended but I've seen semi capable player fold to two barrels in a spot like this. On the other hand you have stations that will happily call three streets with a bare AA hand.

What I'm trying to say is that if you bet flop you should continue on many turns as people might call you like OTF. I hope this makes sense.

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