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02-19-2017 , 02:56 PM

banshee

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 363

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $23.15 (231.5 bb)
BB: $12.10 (121 bb)
UTG: $19.65 (196.5 bb)
MP: $32 (320 bb)
CO: $10.25 (102.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $11.36 (113.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J

2 folds, CO raises to $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, SB folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.10) K

(3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $0.85, BB calls $0.85, CO folds

Turn: ($2.80) 5

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.68, BB calls $2.68

River: ($8.16) 9

(2 players)
BB bets $7.50, Hero ?

I think people generally heavy underbluff in general at these stakes and even QT made SDvalue OTR, so I expect him to reasonably often have at least the 2nd nut flush maybe mixed with some random spazzes now and then. Is this still a fold then? Would you call with the Kh or Ah blocker? What if we had like J

or J

. Are these better calls than the hand I had above?

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02-19-2017 , 08:48 PM

Loctus

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I always call and he always has it. Like, they ALWAYS have it. And if they once in a blue ****ing moon wouldn't have it that's so rare that the times they have it still massively outweighs it. Like you wrote yourself: "I think people generally heavy underbluff in general at these stakes"

So yeah, I would feel ******ed to fold, so I would call, and he would ALWAYS have it. Not having a club in the hand makes it soooo nice to call though. But yeah he always has it.

If someone can figure out the correct HM2 filters to apply I would go through the hands I have from PLO5 and PLO10z on stars and show that literally every time I call in this spot they have it.

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02-20-2017 , 08:41 AM

Kozat

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I would snap **** in the rest, just to be the alpha donk. I would give him a AQTX hand with two clubs, even though i don't think he leads oop with that for a pot bet on the river.

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02-20-2017 , 08:55 AM

monikrazy

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Trivial call except vs supernit

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02-20-2017 , 11:03 AM

warwicktom

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River lead is never a bluff at this stake and he credibly can have both higher flushes so probably a fold. Sometimes you might see a QT but doubtful enough to justify a call.
With the sets + K/Ah blocker hands I think its even more of a fold as you no longer beat the QT spew.

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02-21-2017 , 12:02 AM

PiedPiper2000

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side note : this is probably a fold preflop.

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02-21-2017 , 12:15 AM

NMcNasty

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The blocker hands are definitely worse as they lessen the chance villain is blocker bluffing.

Really feel like this is just a fold, because yeah, they just always have it.

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02-21-2017 , 09:35 AM

banshee

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PiedPiper2000

side note : this is probably a fold preflop.

Good point and I normally would fold. I must have had a small sample or meta reads on CO or one of the blinds suggesting he's a weaker player. Still a fold?

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02-22-2017 , 12:23 AM

AveeMaria

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I'd be so much more inclined to call if we didn't have the Jh. I just don't see too many T high hearts in this hand that continue on flop and turn. Pretty sure I shrug/fold and look for a better spot. Not calling with blockers because he's obviously capable of doing this with non-nut flushes (see the juxtaposition?).

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02-22-2017 , 03:27 AM

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Ankimo

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Lol at all the flush bluff catching when the 2nd most obvious draw is the straight that also gets there

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02-22-2017 , 03:58 AM

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AveeMaria

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This is very much a flush bluff catch.

Last edited by AveeMaria; 02-22-2017 at 04:07 AM.

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