Hey Guys,

today in my session , i lost 280 BB with my Aces play. Aces are for me the hardest way to learn.

let me know your opinion Please.

First Hand:

For sure I think my 3 Bet with the Doublesuited Aces is fine. Important to know that CO is crazy, and 3 Bet and 4 bet how much he can. ( sad to say , not in this specific hand )

I think a C-bet from me OTF is okay , but have I Bet to much here ? should i better bet 1/3 ? and should I fold here against BTN shove ?! ( until this hand he plays very calm ) .



Second Hand:


I think on the Flop there is no other Option , as shove, againt a random hand we have here 62% , and with the SPR <1 , ALL IN -.)

but my question , what are you say for the Preflop play, should we better, ony call with this very trashy Aces ?!

When he shoves you are only ahead of a straight draw. He doesn't have any other bluffs. I would imagine that top two is rarely good given the action.

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280bb is nothing.

second hand is std. I'd make a note to 4bet almost my entire UTG range until he stops having trash like (K8)84 in his 3bet range.

first hand I bet a lot smaller on the flop because it's not great for you, and it allows you to bluff a lot cheaper if you don't have much (you should have a decent amount of non-pairs in your 3bet range ... esp. if opener is crazy). Folding random AA/KK is annoying, but fine without reads that SB is going insane pretending he has it ... folding top two, no. 88/77 are blocked. Obviously wouldn't be shocked to see 22, but also 82/72 and there are a bunch of draws.

hand 1:

I am very happy to get it all in with, scared of nothing, we have top 2 and he shouldn't have a set here really, the pot is also already a decent size

hand 2:

second hand I am also very happy to get it in

Lol @ folding top 2 here
4bet with trash aces in hand 2 is good, tag SB as ultra-******
Run better next time

Maybe I was just biased because people are 10x more likely to post losing hands but when reading the hand I immediately assumed hero was up against a set most of the time.

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these are the two most standard hands in the history of poker.

Totally standard both of them. 1st hand is awkward SPR OTF but your hand is too strong to not 3bet preflop, so nothing you can do.

If it makes you feel better I lost >100bb 3 times today with magnums 4bet pot or AIpre

You can bet a little less than pot in hand 1, but either way you're gonna be bet/calling.

This +infinity

PLO might not be your game if these standard spots get to you.

Way **** goes with aces. People are usually trying to outdraw you unless you 3bet/4bet with other hands.

I don't think that will stop people from trying to outdraw you

hey ,

first of all, thanks all for your response.

i think i forgot the Smiley in the header.

i know its normal to loose, with aces xx, i think this thread gaves the impression that i only want to complaines, thats not right.

sorry for that.

They won't be trying to outdraw you as often if your hand isn't face up.

I am not a big fan of aces either, but Jnandez has proved AAxx hands are profitable in a vacuum. He says to always 3b them but sometimes I just call. I tend to call more with the AAxx hands that have lower cards in it. That way if ace does flop my hand is more deceptive and if i don't flop huge I can get away from the hand. I don't always do that but at times I do especially when stacks are deep and I don't want to turn my hand face up. But I think in both of these spots you played it correctly.

JNandez also runs stupid hot and knows how to play postflop.

I've done really well with 3-betting aces as long as other players aren't too call happy. I make sure that I'm 3-betting other hands, though, because if my aces are face up then I may as well have less preflop equity than my opponents. When I'm getting too much action, I've decided to slow down a bit with the weaker ones.

Yup

I think playing aces profitably is highly situational at lower stakes, with pots going multiway very often and people cold calling 3b a bunch. Its so funny that most cant even figure out that the SPR going to the flop will be ultra low and that they dont have remotely the implied odds to draw out. They are high variance though.

crazy times when one missing emoji is ****ing up the whole meaning of a post.
if there were more girls on this forum I would be forced to post some smileys now

There are lot of pssy on this forum. Without emoji.

show some class.

Both hands WP, just unlucky that villain hits nuts