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I 3bet preflop w/black cards. Flop = all Diamonds. Bluff at it? I 3bet preflop w/black cards. Flop = all Diamonds. Bluff at it?

12-15-2014 , 05:31 PM
2/2 live, 9 player

bb (hero = 5 6 7 8): $600
hj (Tag) = $600
co (Lag) = $500

preflop:
mp limp, hj pots to $10, co calls, sb calls, hero pots to $52, mp folds, hj/co call, sb folds.

flop ($168): A T 6
Hero?

I have a tight image thus My first thought was to pot and represent set Aces.

What would you do? Why?
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12-15-2014 , 09:12 PM
If you're going to cbet, I wouldn't pot it. I would bet half pot or so on this board, but I think giving up is fine too.

People are unlikely to bluff vs your check I believe, so if they bet they likely have it.
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12-15-2014 , 10:38 PM
I don't like the three bet pre; calling I think is a lot better. On the flop I would probably just give up. If I do continue I like a bet of $80 or so. In general your approach should not be to bluff people out of pots, except in rare situations where they are likely to be very weak, but instead to focus on identifying when you have the best hand and to observe your opponents and try to profile them.
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12-16-2014 , 04:18 AM
This is a pretty lock down board. No reason to pot. I would bet 1/2 pot max and obv fold to any action. He'll have a lot of trouble continuing without a decent flush here. You could easily have KKxxdd for example, or a run-down KQJTdd, so without a decent flush in his hand, he'll fold v often.
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12-16-2014 , 08:18 AM
3b is not something I would do in a live soft game OOP, i guess the benefit of making the hand 3way instead of 5/6 way is beneficial due to its low card/low flush vunerability - so I can see reasons why its good

I give up on this flop, and TBH you want AAxx no Flush in your checkign range here as well
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12-16-2014 , 09:51 AM
Wah didn't see it was 9 handed AND OOP. Don't like the 3 bet either. Hand plays fine mutli-way.
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12-16-2014 , 10:10 AM
Probably don't squeeze this OOP and deep... And if I cbet it's definitely not pot.

We have one of the absolute worst hands to bluff with tho, complete anti-blockers.

So, 3 way I probably just c/f here since I don't think we'll take it down on the flop with a smaller bet often enough (and I don't think we really want to pot our value here, and besides even if we did, I dont think this hand fits in such a range) necessitating further bluffs to win the hand, which with anti-blockers I'm not really interested in getting into... We have so many better hands than this to bet with.

If you think about what hands you wish your opponents to have on this board for them to fold, your hand blocks absolutely NONE of them.

Also @ilovelamp, I think you are confused by OPs annotation, it's 3way to flop --- at leas that's how I read it. "Hj/co" calls, at first I read this as it being 1 player but from the previous action I think it means 2 people called him.
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12-19-2014 , 01:52 AM
Why would you ever pot in this spot?

I bet flop fwiw
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12-19-2014 , 11:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S
Why would you ever pot in this spot?

I bet flop fwiw
to represent set aces and that I'm not going to fold (even tho I'm giving up if called/raised).
I guess wrong thinking?

How much would you bet?
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12-19-2014 , 04:19 PM
you dont need to bet pot to rep AA, you already rep AA by 3b pre, so even checking would rep AA on this flop, and tbh people will play very str8 fwd, and almost never bluff a flush here, as they know they have zero FE against AA, so most likely it gets checked thru unless someone has a flush or top two, if it does get checked thru, and the board pairs we can start repping a full house by betting 1/4 pot then shipping river, if not we give up imo
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12-21-2014 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ILoveLamp.
Wah didn't see it was 9 handed AND OOP. Don't like the 3 bet either. Hand plays fine mutli-way.
not raising for value w/a premium hand like this?!?!
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