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05-03-2008 , 06:07 PM
i posted this in MTT forum, but nobody responded. guess they dont know omaha over there.

i was chipleader when we played the biggest pot of the tournament by far. maybe 15 players left in this 6 max plo MTT. im new to plo, so maybe this is reaaaly bad or just unlucky. not sure. anyway, i checked and looks like i had 38% equity when we went all in. should i not have called because my flush draw was only 2nd nut? and i knew my top pair was probably crap. should i have feared AAxx or KKxx too much? (he was pretty tight player) or i guess maybe i should have just played it slower? check / call, fold on turn...? i got there, but he GOT THERE.

converter said invalid header, but it's obviously not working. is somebody looking into this bug? i see a few people making comments that the HH converter "isn't working". how hard is it to have it simply save the hands that return invalid header so somebody up top can debug? or maybe im just dumb and actually cut n pasted wrong...

feedback appreciated. i'm 6th of 9 and it's still going. hopefully i'll make my first plo final table.

PokerStars Game #17165859930: Tournament #86967388, $5.00+$0.50 Omaha Pot Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2008/05/03 - 04:29:56 (ET)
Table '86967388 8' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: aprilsfool (145740 in chips)
Seat 2: He'sRLuCkY1 (41683 in chips)
Seat 5: FYITM (28518 in chips)
Seat 6: GrinderCP (86903 in chips)
aprilsfool: posts small blind 1000
He'sRLuCkY1: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aprilsfool [Qs 8d 2s Ac]
FYITM: folds
GrinderCP: raises 2000 to 4000
aprilsfool: calls 3000
He'sRLuCkY1: folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc As 9s]
aprilsfool: checks
GrinderCP: bets 6000
aprilsfool: raises 22000 to 28000
GrinderCP: raises 54903 to 82903 and is all-in
aprilsfool: calls 54903
just1pair is connected
*** TURN *** [Kc As 9s] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [Kc As 9s Kh] [6s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
aprilsfool: shows [Qs 8d 2s Ac] (a flush, Ace high)
GrinderCP: shows [Jh Ks Ad Qh] (a full house, Kings full of Aces)
GrinderCP said, "wooooooooo"
GrinderCP collected 175806 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 175806 | Rake 0
Board [Kc As 9s Kh 6s]
Seat 1: aprilsfool (small blind) showed [Qs 8d 2s Ac] and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 2: He'sRLuCkY1 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: FYITM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: GrinderCP (button) showed [Jh Ks Ad Qh] and won (175806) with a full house, Kings full of Aces

also, this hand just came up, pretty similar. i wasnt sure if i should have played it the same way because i was typing this up and would hate to make same mistake 2ice?

PokerStars Game #17166104060: Tournament #86967388, $5.00+$0.50 Omaha Pot Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2008/05/03 - 04:55:11 (ET)
Table '86967388 34' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: just1pair (170080 in chips)
Seat 2: He'sRLuCkY1 (41701 in chips)
Seat 3: JonBay453 (207236 in chips)
Seat 5: Heavy Sho' (11370 in chips)
Seat 6: aprilsfool (88337 in chips)
aprilsfool: posts small blind 2000
just1pair: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to aprilsfool [Td Qc 4c 8h]
He'sRLuCkY1: folds
JonBay453: folds
Heavy Sho': folds
aprilsfool: calls 2000
just1pair: checks
*** FLOP *** [5d Tc 6c]
aprilsfool: checks
just1pair: bets 8000
aprilsfool: raises 24000 to 32000
just1pair: raises 64000 to 96000
aprilsfool: calls 52337 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [5d Tc 6c] [4h]
*** RIVER *** [5d Tc 6c 4h] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
aprilsfool: shows [Td Qc 4c 8h] (a full house, Fours full of Tens)
just1pair: shows [Th 7s 3c 6d] (a straight, Three to Seven)
aprilsfool collected 176674 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 176674 | Rake 0
Board [5d Tc 6c 4h 4d]
Seat 1: just1pair (big blind) showed [Th 7s 3c 6d] and lost with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 2: He'sRLuCkY1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JonBay453 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Heavy Sho' (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: aprilsfool (small blind) showed [Td Qc 4c 8h] and won (176674) with a full house, Fours full of Tens
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05-03-2008 , 06:50 PM
hey, i played with you in a 2$ rebuy yesterday

first things, puke da luke! the first hand call is disgusting! AQ28 is just like 36 in hold em, there is not point to the hand (outside chances of straights) and you dont even have a suited ace. this is an easy fold preflop.
On flop it is 100% you are not ahead here and putting it in with just a flushdraw is horrible, so fold.

2nd hand kinda meh, you do have gut shot and flush draw all be it none to the nuts. reads on the players would be nice. you could probably just fold this pre also with only 20BB.

converter doesnt work for plo tournies me thinks. to make it work replace the header with a cash game header (and edit the blinds to be the same as the tourny blinds)
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05-03-2008 , 07:57 PM
Well, preflop was awful but the flop's super-standard in hand 1. I'm never folding top pair + FD that shallow.
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05-03-2008 , 11:58 PM
Agree with Igg on Hand 1

Hand 2 I'd fold pf. Postflop is fine
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05-04-2008 , 07:37 AM
Agree with Igg on Hand 1

Hand 2 is fine
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05-04-2008 , 11:55 AM
everything about hand 1 is awful, but i especially hate tangling with the other big stack with a marginal hand, when you can weild your stack against the other players and make free money while they wait for a hand to shove with
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05-04-2008 , 03:32 PM
thanks for the advice guys, please be as brutal as possible as im really new and would really like to learn. i guess i just didn't know hand 1 was so bad. i don't know starting hand values yet.
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