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Is good playing for stacks in this spot? Is good playing for stacks in this spot?

02-11-2014 , 08:26 PM
PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $4.20 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 5.13, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 39)
SB: $7.66 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: $21.68 (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: $12.96 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: $4.97 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (CO): $7.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has T T J K

UTG calls $0.05, MP raises to $0.22, Hero calls $0.22, fold, fold, BB calls $0.17, UTG calls $0.17

Flop: ($0.90, 4 players) Q 2 A
BB bets $0.50, fold, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.86, BB calls $2.36, MP raises to $4.75 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.89, BB calls $1.89

Turn: ($15.15, 3 players) 4
BB checks, Hero bets $2.03 and is all-in, BB calls $2.03

River: ($19.21, 3 players) 6

Spoiler:
BB shows Q 2 Q 8 (Three of a Kind, Queens)
Main Pot [$15.15]: (Pre 37%, Flop 55%, Turn 22%)
Side Pot#1 [$4.06]: (Pre 53%, Flop 53%, Turn 23%)

Hero shows T T J K (Flush, Queen High)
Main Pot [$15.15]: (Pre 31%, Flop 41%, Turn 78%)
Side Pot#1 [$4.06]: (Pre 46%, Flop 47%, Turn 78%)

MP shows J K A J (One Pair, Aces)
Main Pot [$15.15]: (Pre 31%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)

Hero wins $18.46


Thoughts?
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02-11-2014 , 08:52 PM
I see merit in raising but I like calling the flop... Interesting to see what others might think? Since we don't have the NFD and the MP just flats the BB donk I would be a bit concerned we are up against a better FD, giving us only 7 nut broadway outs and 7 'dirty' outs. In game I would flat most of the time since we have position on both villains.
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02-11-2014 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FT37
I see merit in raising but I like calling the flop... Interesting to see what others might think? Since we don't have the NFD and the MP just flats the BB donk I would be a bit concerned we are up against a better FD, giving us only 7 nut broadway outs and 7 'dirty' outs. In game I would flat most of the time since we have position on both villains.

So if i flat call flop how about turn? What do we do with that flush on turn? (if they check? and if they raise? how much of a raise will we pay?)

Thanks for the reply c:
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02-12-2014 , 12:07 AM
I wouldn't feel great in a three way all in with your holdings. With all that flop action, you could safely assume that you are up against a set or a higher flush draw or both.

But I think you still have to go with it. This is the nature of omaha.
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02-12-2014 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by pocket.air
So if i flat call flop how about turn? What do we do with that flush on turn? (if they check? and if they raise? how much of a raise will we pay?)

Thanks for the reply c:
When the flush hits the turn we almost always have the best hand when checked to. We can assume that a high % of the time either villains will bet with the nut flush and a decent % of the time they bet with the Khi flush (both for protection and value) especially since this pot is 3-handed. I would bet somewhere in the realm of 50-60%pot to hopefully get calls from sets and weaker flushes from either or both villains.
If villain leads into us when the flush card comes we need reads and tendencies to make the best decision, however if we are going into the hand cold I would at least call the turn and re-evaluate river.
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02-12-2014 , 09:49 AM
Thanks for the replies, i'm still learning this awesome game. Next time i will push with the nuts
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02-12-2014 , 10:02 AM
you need to be aware that the type of hand you have doesn't do as well multi way as ace high flush draws.

You generally don't want the type of hand you have to go multi way - so 3betting / fold to 4bet is going to be your best approach. Obv don't fold to a 4bet if the guy is a lunatic but it is much easier to play that type of hand heads up than it is to play it multi way.
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02-13-2014 , 09:17 AM
^

3bet to fold to 4bet seems like spew in this spot? Especially when MP raises the UTG limp. I don't think flatting here is too terrible considering we have position and decent spr. If we were in the SB or BB I would lean towards 3betting.
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