1-2-5 live game.

Hero just got back from dinner break. Is up about $400 in the game, has $800 total in front. Picks up AQT9 ss on the button. Limped around and guy who just sat down, in big blind, pops it to $30. 6 callers (this game was really loose like this until this point. A lot of multiway raised pots, people playing pretty much any four cards). Hero calls. Pot is about 180.

Flop is A Q 9 with 2 clubs.

Preflop raiser leads out for his last 200 or so, going all in. Then the 8 seat calls, a guy involved in a lot of pots, loosest player at the table. I have no reads on the preflop raiser. I have tons of set blockers but his line really smells of top set to me in which case I'm crippled. I'm getting a good price though at 3-1.

Tough spot but like you said you do have blockers. It's likely caller doesnt have a set but as played, BB is repping one. With no reads, I think it's a sigh fold, as tight as that seems. It's possible BB has a AKQJ or AKKQ or something but you've only invested 30 bucks. I don't want to put in another 200 drawing dead

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You're crushed or up against quite a bit of equity and they can still get there. In those spots, I seriously think it's a fold. Unlikely you have 25% equity, even against 2 players

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Yeah that was my thinking basically. I was surprised when the preflop raiser turned up 4356 with clubs for a baby flush draw. Other guy won the hand with Jack high. Never seen a pot like that won with Jack high in omaha. I would have boated up.

Turns out the guy was a complete donk. The table was playing very donkish, but I can't blame myself for not reading him. Sometimes when a player sits down on a Saturday night, you should just take him for a donk until he proves otherwise.

I'm not clear on stacks here. If you can play a $1200 side pot against the fish's flop calling range, anything other than jamming would be absurd.

Fish had about the same as me, 800ish to start the hand

I wouldn't fold here either way, but with the fish already calling 1/4 of stack and commiting himself with what's likely a pretty weak hand, this is the easiest shove ever. Even if the other guy has the AA, you're just printing money against the fish in the side pot.

^ and raise pre.

But what about the fact that we're possibly putting our money in bad for $200? Why you guys so focused on a side pot when it isn't even a guarantee? Some donks will put a 1/4 of their stack in and fold (I.e. worried about losing all that $$$)

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Like others said

Raise pre

And we can't fold given description of villain, ship or flat depending on details

Go reread. "No reads on preflop raiser"?

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We do have set blockers so not sure we can lay this down actually. Sometimes they will show up with a set...But most of the time no

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Snap re jam otf, also pot pre especially if suited to the A.

A set? Wow, easy jam. People in here are saying anytime people pot it in front of us (while we flop top 2 pair) they have a set... Theres so many draws they can have. A set? Really?

You're either miles ahead or far behind the original better. How I play flop depends on how much the MP caller has left. As getting a side pot with this guy could be profitable. His call is always a draw here. So good to either jam over the top or if you flat you can jam any low card turn with remaining 570 left


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