first 100bb punt , flame me please
08-26-2016
, 12:25 PM
Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37419920
Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
SB: $122.55 (61.3 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $211.15 (105.6 bb)
MP: $230.87 (115.4 bb)
CO: $447.29 (223.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with J
T
8 Q
UTG folds, MP calls $2, CO folds, Hero raises to $9, SB folds, BB raises to $30, MP folds, Hero calls $21
Flop: ($63) K
T 3 (2 players)
BB bets $50, Hero raises to $170 and is all-in, BB calls $120 and is all-in
Turn: ($403) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($403) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37419920
Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)
SB: $122.55 (61.3 bb)
BB: $200 (100 bb)
UTG: $211.15 (105.6 bb)
MP: $230.87 (115.4 bb)
CO: $447.29 (223.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with J
T 8 QUTG folds, MP calls $2, CO folds, Hero raises to $9, SB folds, BB raises to $30, MP folds, Hero calls $21
Flop: ($63) K
T 3 (2 players)BB bets $50, Hero raises to $170 and is all-in, BB calls $120 and is all-in
Turn: ($403) K
(2 players, 2 are all-in)River: ($403) J
(2 players, 2 are all-in)thoughts here? is my raise pre fine here on button? calling this ok right?
now flop is easy fold right? damn im such a fish at times, think it mindset more than anything cause i wouldnt normally punt the flop here with pair and oesd but wanted to know if this std or just a complete disaster?
thanks all the plo guys, hope u run good
08-26-2016
, 12:57 PM
A typical 3-bet range is going to be 8% overall no position in particular, a reg is going to have a wider range 3-betting button opens from the blinds. You never really put any stats in or reads so I'll just guesstimate.
This range gives us 40% so easy call pre. Your good so far, especially with position.
Flop:
We hit middle pair plus an OESD which is not bad. This leaves us with two decisions, either shove flop or call and play turns. There is a flush draw out there where we don't have a single blocker too as well. If this board was rainbow or had clubs I would be snap shoving. Since we don't have spades or any backdoors to speak of really I'd probably just flat and play turns. Overall shoving isn't really that big of a mistake, against a bad reg you could get them to incorrectly fold Aces without spades or any gutters.
This is a pure math spot so I highly encourage you to play around in PPT or odds oracle/juice.
| ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jc8cqhtd | 40.22% | 235,774 | 11,127 |
| 12% | 59.78% | 353,099 | 11,127 |
This range gives us 40% so easy call pre. Your good so far, especially with position.
Flop:
| ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| board: KT3 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jc8cqhtd | 41.68% | 241,017 | 18,135 |
| 12% | 58.32% | 340,848 | 18,135 |
We hit middle pair plus an OESD which is not bad. This leaves us with two decisions, either shove flop or call and play turns. There is a flush draw out there where we don't have a single blocker too as well. If this board was rainbow or had clubs I would be snap shoving. Since we don't have spades or any backdoors to speak of really I'd probably just flat and play turns. Overall shoving isn't really that big of a mistake, against a bad reg you could get them to incorrectly fold Aces without spades or any gutters.
This is a pure math spot so I highly encourage you to play around in PPT or odds oracle/juice.
08-26-2016
, 01:07 PM
Quote:
A typical 3-bet range is going to be 8% overall no position in particular, a reg is going to have a wider range 3-betting button opens from the blinds. You never really put any stats in or reads so I'll just guesstimate.
This range gives us 40% so easy call pre. Your good so far, especially with position.
Flop:
We hit middle pair plus an OESD which is not bad. This leaves us with two decisions, either shove flop or call and play turns. There is a flush draw out there where we don't have a single blocker too as well. If this board was rainbow or had clubs I would be snap shoving. Since we don't have spades or any backdoors to speak of really I'd probably just flat and play turns. Overall shoving isn't really that big of a mistake, against a bad reg you could get them to incorrectly fold Aces without spades or any gutters.
This is a pure math spot so I highly encourage you to play around in PPT or odds oracle/juice.
| ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jc8cqhtd | 40.22% | 235,774 | 11,127 |
| 12% | 59.78% | 353,099 | 11,127 |
This range gives us 40% so easy call pre. Your good so far, especially with position.
Flop:
| ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| board: KT3 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jc8cqhtd | 41.68% | 241,017 | 18,135 |
| 12% | 58.32% | 340,848 | 18,135 |
We hit middle pair plus an OESD which is not bad. This leaves us with two decisions, either shove flop or call and play turns. There is a flush draw out there where we don't have a single blocker too as well. If this board was rainbow or had clubs I would be snap shoving. Since we don't have spades or any backdoors to speak of really I'd probably just flat and play turns. Overall shoving isn't really that big of a mistake, against a bad reg you could get them to incorrectly fold Aces without spades or any gutters.
This is a pure math spot so I highly encourage you to play around in PPT or odds oracle/juice.
08-26-2016
, 03:30 PM
Quote:
A typical 3-bet range is going to be 8% overall no position in particular, a reg is going to have a wider range 3-betting button opens from the blinds. You never really put any stats in or reads so I'll just guesstimate.
This range gives us 40% so easy call pre. Your good so far, especially with position.
Flop:
We hit middle pair plus an OESD which is not bad. This leaves us with two decisions, either shove flop or call and play turns. There is a flush draw out there where we don't have a single blocker too as well. If this board was rainbow or had clubs I would be snap shoving. Since we don't have spades or any backdoors to speak of really I'd probably just flat and play turns. Overall shoving isn't really that big of a mistake, against a bad reg you could get them to incorrectly fold Aces without spades or any gutters.
This is a pure math spot so I highly encourage you to play around in PPT or odds oracle/juice.
| ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jc8cqhtd | 40.22% | 235,774 | 11,127 |
| 12% | 59.78% | 353,099 | 11,127 |
This range gives us 40% so easy call pre. Your good so far, especially with position.
Flop:
| ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation |
| 600,000 trials (Randomized) |
| board: KT3 |
| Hand | Pot equity | Wins | Ties |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jc8cqhtd | 41.68% | 241,017 | 18,135 |
| 12% | 58.32% | 340,848 | 18,135 |
We hit middle pair plus an OESD which is not bad. This leaves us with two decisions, either shove flop or call and play turns. There is a flush draw out there where we don't have a single blocker too as well. If this board was rainbow or had clubs I would be snap shoving. Since we don't have spades or any backdoors to speak of really I'd probably just flat and play turns. Overall shoving isn't really that big of a mistake, against a bad reg you could get them to incorrectly fold Aces without spades or any gutters.
This is a pure math spot so I highly encourage you to play around in PPT or odds oracle/juice.
I'd also prefer a call and see what the turn brings.
If the board was rainbow I think both shoving and calling is ok but I still lean towards calling.