Blinds: $3.00/$6.00

MP ($1000.00) 167bb
CO ($0.00) 0bb
BTN ($335.35) 56bb
SB Hero ($936.07) 156bb (Hero)J T T 9
BB ($556.19) 93bb (Villain)
UTG ($1799.01) 300bb

P ($9.00, 5 players)

UTG calls $6.00, MP raises to $27.00, BTN folds, Hero calls $24.00, BB raises to $114.00, UTG folds, MP calls $87.00, Hero calls $87.00

F ($348.00, 3 players) 2 7 8

Still comited vs BB but not sure the best line again MP. Ideas. In the game hero shove and take the FE plus.

Ty

Fold pre?

Pot flop and hope that MP folds a Q or K high fd?

Folding to the 3-bet is pretty nitty. I would play the same. Pot flop.

Every option seems fairly bad because if MP comes along we are in bad shape. This is one of the best flops you can hope to hit with this hand and we are in a tough spot which is why this is a fold to the 3-bet pre and probably just a fold pre unless you want to 3-bet iso from sb which this is probably too weak to do.

If we can somehow gii against BB:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: 782

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
Th9hJcTd	59.40%	344,869	23,086
AA,KK, 8%:Adxd, 78+, 569+, 8%:Kdxd, 8%:7, 8%:8	40.60%	232,045	23,086

If it goes 3-ways:

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: 782

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
Th9hJcTd	35.12%	197,004	27,551
AA,KK, 8%:Adxd, 78+, 569+, 8%:Kdxd, 8%:7, 8%:8	21.48%	118,882	20,226
72, 78,77, 88, 79T, 2:dd, 7:dd, 8:dd, 569, 69T, 9TJ	43.40%	253,082	14,807

Ranges for this are probably very shaky, would be much easier if I had juice on me at work.

Joey ingram says don't fold to 3bets pre in PLO so I aint folding

i would check flop, let bb shove and come along if MP folds. dont think bb is ever folding AA with his SPR, but i dont want to gii vs MP flop calling range

I'm betting 1/2 of bb's stack on the flop and never folding.

Fold pre. Probably another lol-I-guess-I-shove type spot on the flop.

To those who fold pre, at which point? Or does it depends on some timing?

The preflop action made the hand look like 200plo with a raise and 3bet ahead of hero, cold calling in the small blind. Got me all confused. Now realize it was just a limp and isolate ahead. Pre looks fine now.

First, preflop is easy call Podds plus this hands play ok MWP postflop, and another point UTG is a fish. Postflop my dude is the line with more EV, again MP we can use bet fold range 200 (in SRP) will be ok but the point is I dont see enough FE again BB (MP-BB are decent regulars) so

1- in the line hero bet 200 BB push MP call we have enought equity for call,
2- and in the other line hero pot-call also the same, the treshold looks to close in boths lines. If somebody have a clear idea. Thxs

So the point is how evaluate the FE there, looks like Td will be ok blocker.

Preflop I have hero with ~28.8% equity, enough to call but marginal enough that folding to the 2nd bet with poor position is fine (we need ~25.9 before implied odds). So if we fold we are trading off $8-9 In ev against future costs.

Even though postflop playability is good I think hero can be relatively indifferent on whether to complete or not.

This is a good flop for our hand (iv got hero at low 36% Equity, something like 36-40-24). At least one opponent should have the flush draw ~43.7% of the time. Donk shove is a good line here as I think some AA/KK hands can fold here, especially with another player yet to act that could be crushing it.

The case for checking is mostly to entice mp into playing some hands that might otherwise fold but I think hero should be leading this flop with a greater frequency than checking

Well we can't get a timing tell when we're OOP and are shoving first a lot.

That's so true. That's why we want to be IP!