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3bp on turn w eosd + 2 pair, straight comes in... 3bp on turn w eosd + 2 pair, straight comes in...

12-04-2011 , 11:24 AM
Villain opens 71% bu and never folds to 3bs... stacksizes are awkward. Villain was not balanced with his betsizes on the flop in a 3bp, so the Plan was to c/shove if he bet smallish or ch/call if he bet big. First of all: do you like this play? Or do you just pot/call or bet/call or bet/ fold somehow?
Second: when the turn gives us a doeuble gusthot and second highest pair and fd now, what is your play? Looking at the equity, it is a shove...






    Poker Stars, $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11226692

    Hero (BB): $409 (102.3 bb)
    SB: $216 (54 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 3 T A J
    SB raises to $8, Hero raises to $24, SB calls $16

    Flop: ($48) 8 5 Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB bets $47.50, Hero calls $47.50

    Turn: ($143) J (2 players)



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    so his flop POT range i gave him i put in here...

    ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
    600,000 trials (Randomized)
    board: q85
    Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
    actc3djd43.09% 255,6935,639
    (qq,88,55,q8,q5,Q$b$b$b,Q67,Qjt,qj9,qt9,(dd58,9tj,67,q,89t,8jt,89j))):71%!AA,AKK56.91% 338,6685,639


    his turn equity:


    ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
    934,600 trials (Exhaustive)
    board: q85j
    Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
    actc3djd40.34% 369,62614,826
    (qq,88,55,q8,q5,Q$b$b$b,Q67,Qjt,qj9,qt9,(dd58,9tj,67,q,89t,8jt,89j))):71%!AA,AKK59.66% 550,14814,826
    3bp on turn w eosd + 2 pair, straight comes in... Quote
    12-04-2011 , 11:50 AM
    as played ship it in on turn.

    would fold the flop if he bets that big
    3bp on turn w eosd + 2 pair, straight comes in... Quote
    12-09-2011 , 09:04 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by praios
    as played ship it in on turn.

    would fold the flop if he bets that big
    hmm. do you usually c bet here then?
    3bp on turn w eosd + 2 pair, straight comes in... Quote
    12-09-2011 , 10:39 PM
    i think most players agree that u cant bet call since ur usually gonna run into a bigger FD or 2p+. if he had been aggro enough for u to bet call im gonna assume u would have included that in the post. so it all depends on his raising range when u cb. if he raises any pair`+ gutter i wouldnt wanna bet fold but most players arent aggro enough so its c-c, c-r or c-f. with ur read c-r vs small bet is fine but without a pair or more backdoors i dont think u can c-c so id cf. with back door NFD or AJT8 i might c-c if i didnt wanna c-r.

    as played, pot the turn.... he might fold Q8, and stuff like J8 J5 and 85 will def fold w-o anything to go with it ur hand looks like QJT no diamonds, or JT9 QT9 etc
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