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Confused on turn and river PLO5 Confused on turn and river PLO5

12-15-2016 , 09:28 AM
    Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37545425

    Hero (CO): $5 (100 bb)
    BTN: $3.53 (70.6 bb)
    SB: $4.11 (82.2 bb)
    BB: $5 (100 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with J A K 4
    Hero raises to $0.17, BTN calls $0.17, SB raises to $0.29, BB folds, Hero calls $0.12, BTN calls $0.12

    Flop: ($0.92) 9 3 3 (3 players)
    SB bets $0.44, Hero calls $0.44, BTN calls $0.44

    Turn: ($2.24) J (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $1.28, BTN calls $1.28, SB calls $1.28

    River: ($6.08) 7 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $2.99 and is all-in, BTN calls $1.52 and is all-in, SB folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $9.12 pot ($0.36 rake)
    Final Board: 9 3 3 J 7
    Hero showed J A K 4 and lost (-$3.53 net)
    BTN showed 7 2 8 7 and won $8.76 ($5.23 net)
    SB mucked and lost (-$2.01 net)



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    how would you play this hand? not much info on opponents at the time

    I think I play to the turn ok, then when the turn comes i bet - not really sure why- think just because my hand picked up equity but maybe it would be better to check here?

    then when the river comes I was unsure what to do so I bet for no good reason. Should I be checking here at PLO5 as I'm probably not getting folds from better hands anyway and my hand could be good at showdown anyway?

    cheers for any help
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    12-15-2016 , 11:24 AM
    I would check turn and check river. Typically people at plo5 have a very low 3-bet and their range would likely be a majority of over pairs. While I might try and do a two barrel bluff where I know the player has a fold button, lots of people don't at plo5, I wouldn't trying to be pushing him off QQ+ here.

    We have decent equity on the turn but we aren't pushing any equity against most normal calling ranges there. The only thing we actually want to call us is worse flush draws and worse jacks and in a lot of cases those fold to our bet or should seriously think about it. This changes if this is heads up but it's not. I would be just trying to get to showdown with my AJ, if we bink a heart on the river I likely bet/fold it.

    Also don't show the results of the hand even in a spoiler tag, that will likely screw the response you will get. I haven't looked at it, I assume you got looked up by an overpair and lost which is why your posting. Something I don't think you realize is that you basically are turning your hand into a bluff on the turn and river, this is not a value bet on either street.
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    12-15-2016 , 11:29 AM
    I have literally no clue wtf you are doing on turn and river. Don't randomly pick buttons to click (which you seem aware of already..)

    In the future decide what you're gonna do, and then before you do it do the exact opposite instead
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    12-16-2016 , 12:15 AM
    Turn and river is spew
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    12-16-2016 , 01:54 AM
    i recommend a river check.
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    12-17-2016 , 01:04 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Darkfangs
    I would check turn and check river. Typically people at plo5 have a very low 3-bet and their range would likely be a majority of over pairs. While I might try and do a two barrel bluff where I know the player has a fold button, lots of people don't at plo5, I wouldn't trying to be pushing him off QQ+ here.

    We have decent equity on the turn but we aren't pushing any equity against most normal calling ranges there. The only thing we actually want to call us is worse flush draws and worse jacks and in a lot of cases those fold to our bet or should seriously think about it. This changes if this is heads up but it's not. I would be just trying to get to showdown with my AJ, if we bink a heart on the river I likely bet/fold it.
    cheers good replies


    guess I should just be trying to make hands and get them to showdown at these stakes then as my red line goes up and blue line goes down even more :/

    so less bluffing/ senseless betting and more trying to get value from the hands
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