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09-22-2016 , 04:05 PM
Pretty confused about the hand, really gross cause i even block 88. Any input is appreciated.

    Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37438852

    BTN: $54.32 (543.2 bb)
    Hero (SB): $21.29 (212.9 bb)
    BB: $11.70 (117 bb)
    UTG: $10 (100 bb)
    MP: $23.43 (234.3 bb)
    CO: $9.42 (94.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 5 8 Q
    4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.60) 8 K 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $0.39, BB raises to $1.74, Hero calls $1.35

    Turn: ($4.08) Q (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks

    River: ($4.08) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $3, BB raises to $9.66 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $10.08 pot ($0.43 rake)
    Final Board: 8 K 5 Q 5
    Hero mucked 9 5 8 Q and lost (-$5.04 net)
    BB mucked and won $9.65 ($4.61 net)



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    BvB spot PLO10z Quote
    09-22-2016 , 07:32 PM
    Hi!
    I would cbet a board like this more because of so many draws
    Really dont see a point in leading river. What value hands which raise flop, check back turn will call a river bet? you have to think of hands he could have, and what of those hands will call a bet. dont just bet because you have a fh.

    If you call the flop i guess you put him on draws and bluffs. When he checks behind turn i think he rarely flushes, especially high flushes which could call river. So i think river is great spot to check and let him bluff, because there is no hand that you beat that will call a river bet
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    09-22-2016 , 07:53 PM
    I also think that bluffcatching river is better than valuebetting. There are not many hand that will call. Villain checking turn is an indicator that he doesn`t have the flus imo. Its more likely that he has a set or a two pair on turn.

    If you bet the river, don`t bet that big. I think the only chance to get value from low flushes or two pair hands is betting very small.

    But the desaster starts preflop imo. Don`t steal with that crap hand if you don`t have a read on villain that he is folding a ton to SB-steals. Against a non-fish your steal success will be very low and this hand will be difficult to play post.
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    09-23-2016 , 01:06 AM
    Pre is bad
    I think river is ok, this spot just isn't going to get bluffed v often when you check and villain more likely calls a low flush than bets it
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    09-23-2016 , 08:11 AM
    Yes i just opened cause the BB had 80% fold to steal.
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    09-23-2016 , 11:49 AM
    Open any 4 pre against then.
    Postflop, wp. So many KK/K5 in his range
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    09-23-2016 , 11:59 AM
    Wouldn't open pre, flop I'd check/call, if I bet, I'd fold to the raise. River, I'd check/call.

    A lot of the plays in this hand are maybe subject to debate, but betting that river is just straight up terrible. His river range is pretty much: total air, K8, boats, and maybe an occasional baby flush. So your river bet gets either folded to, value raised or bluff raised.
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    09-23-2016 , 01:51 PM
    Argh, missread river. Agree with Adebisi. Check/decide river.
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    09-23-2016 , 02:29 PM
    Flop is an easy fold to the raise. Either SA or WB while being OOP. Check river.
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    09-26-2016 , 02:36 PM
    Worlds easiest muck when you get raised with bottom two not-much-redraw-hand.

    Never valuebetting the river, always check/decide , can't see one hand that raises flop, checks back turn and will pay us off OTR and loose.
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    09-28-2016 , 05:54 AM
    As played, our flop-plan is somehow opponent dependant. I could opt for both cbetting (but bigger, for sure). As played, I'd fold to a raise. There's no really much options to continue this hand easily without a position on a dynamic board as it's hard to put the opponent to a certain raising range, thus you'll lack the visibility of your hand on later streets. Plus, I have a strong feeling that people on micros tend to raise cbets mostly for value.
    Check-calling and check-raising might be options as well here vs some opponents, though check-calling would be a much more dominating decision in this spot, at least in my play.
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