I think the red line gets a little too much attention from some people. This is not to say that it isn't important, but the only line you really need to worry about is the green line.

Green line = profit / loss
Red line = non showdown winnings (anytime you win a hand because all players folded out, and no final hand was shown)
Blue line = showdown winnings (anytime 2 or more players show the hands they have at the river)

People who have better red lines than most, often suffer with a lower blue line. Subsequently people with solid blue lines, often have not so good looking redlines.

The blue line is your showdown winnings. If you only show down strong hands, then your blue line is going to be solid, and your redline will suffer because you fold more often.

People who don't fold, push edges, bluff a lot will have better red lines. This is their non-showdown winnings. This is really an indication of aggression. However their blue lines often take a beating because people call them down in spots where they bluff, don't have the nuts or were pushing hard and missed.

You have to find a balance between the two, you don't want to be so tight that you only show down when you have the nuts, but you don't want to be so reckless that you lose a ton of showdown hands and crush your blue line.

In the end, its only the green line that really matters. People tend to forget that redline and blueline are linked and that when one goes up, the other often goes down. I have yet to see any long term graphs that have a significantly positive red and blue line. That would be legit crushing of the game.

Hi,

Thx for your help guys.
Think i am back. Allthough i selfexcluded myself on stars.

Are the games good at ipoker?
I heared a lot about good rakebackdeals??

What would you guys consider the basic fundamentals? good hud stats(important)?

regards

I just started grinding on IPOKER 2 weeks ago. I head the rakes higher than other places but you can't beat the 65% rakeback.

Micro games are obviously soft. You get villains who spew every chance they get playing 80%+ of their hands, passive players who hardly ever raise and check call because they're confused about hand ranges and everything in between.

Tryed 3-4 times a come back after this.
Also got the opportunity to get a bit of free coaching from a very good reg.

Just had trouble to put enough efford and just burned more money. (By the way i am student.)
Think thats it from me. Maybe i will try another comeback laters .. I guess the addiction to the game will lure me in some day. But right know i am koed and wont be back next weeks and maybe months.

Questions are allways wellcome.
Thx for all the helpers.

Just read up, think, review old sessions and watch others for awhile.
Take a break play an occasional game without trying to do anything but enjoy your time at the table not try to force a profit or win if that makes sense?
You seem to love the game trying to make your line go up rather than improve your game will not help mental side of game, more so if the money you lose makes a difference to your life.
No harm in other games or formats for awhile it can help overall game by mixing it up.

Fixed limit games for example i think can help with p/l n/l play a lot.

Maybe no zoom for awhile? GL whatever you decide you get a lot of topics going and have passion but if you can not afford a loss at the moment no harm in leaving for awhile rather than stressing about money, half the fun is dealing with the wanting to smash the computer moments or scream at the mf who can not hear you because he is in Russia.

Only wrote because you seem nice and very active in the forums not trying to tell you what to do just imo every one thinks **** it never playing again at times.

I think I know who the reg is and if you get a bit coaching from him that will be way better than anything else imo
btw will you out your screenname now that you selfexcluded yourself from stars?
gl

Think i really dont want to be known or my account correlated to my twoplustwo profil. One reason beeing me comming across as an complete idiot because i make stupid post from point of view of others.

But i think i wont be back ever and at least not the next 6 months(selfexcluded) so there you go.
Ruelhier

@OmaHiNutsHurt

I am just to tired to try. Every time i should try something. Do this and do that.
At the end i am not made for this game i guess.

As i said once it is a patience game and a boring one. Everything boilds down on better Ev therefore playing tighter than your opponent. (At least about a couple of % in the right spots). Basicly you gotta get it in better or make villian fold betters. Therefore it is just a nitsgame. Thats how it is and works. More so in omaha.

Also i dont think it is worth the time in the long run. Especially not moneywise.
Competition is really high and wont get easier. Best scenario for me seems to be a break even player at mid stakes who can make profit by rakeback.
Thats not going to compensate for the h if you arent fully commited and into this game.
Also obv i am a big fish. So lols ..
First thing would be for sure my mental game instead of trying to learn anything else ..

Life goes on anyways so trying to enjoy other things. Will be at the board and observ some interessting challenges and maybe back one day at a time.

Gl

update

I tryed to rebound but failed. Guess one big reason was my short br with only 30 bi.
I cant afford bigger br than 20 bi at plo10 each month because i am not earning enough.

Also i am not sure where my big leaks are, playing pretty straight forward.
Anyone interested in coaching me?

have you been a member of the ge family?